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Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

Title:DEC Rdb against the World
Moderator:HERON::GODFRIND
Created:Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1348
Total number of notes:5438

729.0. "MIC or not" by NOVA::NEEDLEMAN (yesterdays technology tomorrow) Wed Sep 05 1990 23:11

         A company called MIC wrote a report on Rdb 3.0 a while back.
         We purchased reprints for you to use as sales tools in the
         field. They are writing a new report based upon Rdb 4.0. 

         Before we spend the $ to buy reprints again, please let me
         know if this was a valuable report/sales tool ?

         Respond here or by vaxmail

         Thank you,

         Barry Needleman
         Database Systems Group



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729.1Yes - well sort of!TRCO01::MCMULLENKen McMullenWed Sep 05 1990 23:3815
    Barry,
    
    There is some value to the report, but then it does not tell the
    whole story. These type of reports generally look at database features
    in isolation. A database alone does not solve business problems.
    It usually requires networking, TP, office, decision support software,
    plus integration with other vendors hardware/software. That's the
    real story and most of the reports do not do this including the
    MIC report and the M. Butler and R. Bloor report. If a customer
    is committed to the "Digital's NAS" or "IBM'S SAA" messages,
    wouldn't these reports be more valuable if they explained how well
    the databases support these key architectures from the major vendors?
                                                                
    Database evaluations usually end up summarizing performance features
    only. Maybe we can get Mike Booth or BO to tell them about MUMPS.
729.2We need itHGOVC::DEANGELISMomuntaiThu Sep 06 1990 06:3915
Re .1

Ken, you're right in that databases alone do not solve business problems,
but lots of customers go shopping for databases *first* then worry about
what else can help them solve their problems. For this reason, "independent"
database evaluations are VERY valuable to the field, and to the customer in 
helping them make their decisions. 

I also would like customers to commit to an architecture, but how do they
know that the architecture will solve their problems unless they try it
first. Usually, as a means for keeping the costs at a manageable level, they
will buy a product at a time - more than likely that first product will be the
database.

John.
729.3Sure, keep those reports comingIJSAPL::OLTHOFHenny Olthof @UTO 838-2021Fri Sep 07 1990 13:3810
    Sure, If you were to buy a new car would you be interested in the
    opinion of professional testers or not?
    
    What you then do is value the arguments that are used to rate the
    different models according to your own situation and take the
    conclusion from that into account.
    
    So yes, we need more reports on our products.
    
    Henny Olthof, EIS Netherlands
729.4These reports are goodSAC::ENGLANDNothing's true, everything's possible.....Fri Sep 14 1990 19:485
This kind of independant report is good news - more of them in reprint
form please.

Ken
729.5mic -yesNOVA::NEEDLEMANno good deed goes unpunishedFri Sep 14 1990 20:2013

    Thanks for all the input

    Consensus is- Order one for Rdb 4.0

    Expect them later this year.

    I will now set this no-write.
    
     
    Barry