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Title:DEC Rdb against the World
Moderator:HERON::GODFRIND
Created:Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1348
Total number of notes:5438

721.0. "Oracle mentioned in Product Insight" by IJSAPL::OLTHOF (Henny Olthof @UTO 838-2021) Fri Aug 24 1990 14:04

From:	IJSAPL::OLTHOF       "Henny Olthof @UTO 838-2021" 24-AUG-1990 12:59:22.26
To:	CURIE::BRAKO
CC:	OLTHOF
Subj:	Oracle mentioned in Product Insight

Anne Marie,

I would like to make a comment about an article in the July/August issue of
Product Insight.

First I would like to compliment all people involved for the great job they are
doing. The magazine is very readable, gives good and relevant information in
articles, which are never too long to read. I've found that customers find the
magazine very attactive and informative.

I'm however surprised by the picture on page 18 in the client-server section.
An overview is presented about our interoperability on databases with IBM
and PC integration. However, also Oracle is mentioned. Currently we have no
selling product that gives a "VIDA for Oracle" style of functionality; the
picture however suggests otherwise.

Even more serious, the picture suggests that we have a close relationship with
Oracle. This is totally wrong, we consider Oracle to be the main competitor
in database and CASE products on our platforms. Due to Oracle's efforts
we have lost account control at some sites and the competition gets more
serious each day.

Can you explain why Oracle deserves to be mentioned seperate and why the
picture is not restricted to the box "Other databases and Applications".

Kind regards,
Henny Olthof, EIS Holland
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721.1ORACLE interoperability is coming soonBROKE::THOMASFri Aug 24 1990 18:4430
    Henny,
    
    At DECworld we program announced the Data Integration Server, a 
    4000 or 6000 based server which is used to integrate many different
    user platforms and data sources.  The Data Integration Server will
    be a package including hardware, software, and EIS services which
    will integrate the users environment.  As part of this announcement,
    we also program announced a VIDA-like product that provides access
    to ORACLE, DEC RdbAccess for ORACLE on VMS.  (The product name has 
    not yet been announced.)  The formal announcement of this product is 
    scheduled to appear in the 29 October issue of Competitive Sales Update.
    
    It's true that ORACLE will attempt to use this product to their
    advantage by claiming that DEC has recognized them as the premier 
    VAX-based database.  But ORACLE already claims DEC's recognition because
    of the various agreements they have for their applications, etc.  But
    I can tell you, ORACLE is also concerned about this product, because
    it gives the customer an easier mechanism to convert their systems to
    Rdb.  Now the customer will be able to develop new applications that 
    can access existing ORACLE databases and new Rdb databases.  RdbAccess
    supports Data Distributor, so RdbAccess could be used to build a Data
    Warehouse.  The Data Warehouse could be used to consolidate data from
    Rdb, DB2, ORACLE, RMS, VSAM, IMS, etc.  Also, RdbAccess supports
    requests from workstation-based SQL/Services applications.  
    
    If you have any questions about the Rdb Interoperability products,
    please send me mail.
    
    Anne Thomas
    DBS Product Management