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Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

Title:DEC Rdb against the World
Moderator:HERON::GODFRIND
Created:Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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601.0. "Help for Ultrix 4GL/DB products?" by KYOA::HANSON (Isn't this kinda personal?) Tue Mar 27 1990 22:47

Well, not quite a firefight, but I could sure use some information and/or
pointer to information:

One of our OEM prospects in the NY area was considering DEC or DG for a
U*ix platform to which they could port their medical applications.  This,
according to the customer, is purely a marketing decision and they have
made no firm committments as to what db's or languages they will use in 
this endeavor.

We got a call from him today.  He/The Company wants to go with DEC.  Now
they need to know the top three database & 4GL systems that run on Ultrix,
either RISC or unleaded.  The customer has made mention of Cognos, Unify,
Progress, and Empress.  I haven't heard of the latter two.

Questions:

o What would DEC recommend (TODAY!) for 4GL/database systems on Ultrix?
  Pro's and Con's?  Pointers to info?

o Does Cognos run on Ultrix?  I thought not.

o Does anyone know of, or has anyone heard of, Progress and Empress?
  Pointer to more information?

Thanks in advance for any help that you can provide,
Bob Hanson

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601.1Some answersPNKFLD::BOOTHWhat am I?...An Oracle?Wed Mar 28 1990 16:5720
    As to what is "recommended", Informix & Ingres are certainly in the top
    three.
    
    Progress is a 4GL that has its own database. Their greatest success has
    been in large administrative situations.
    
    Empress is a database and 4GL that, I believe, was originally known as
    Rhodnius some years ago. They run on 88 different dialects of Unix.
    Seems to be a pretty good system, but an awfully small company.
    
    Yes, Cognos does run on Ultrix.
    
    Information is mostly available from vendors. There haven't been any
    Unix DB vs. Unix DB comparisons that have been allowed to go public.
    But you might consider looking in some of the Unix trades. They may
    well have done some type of survey that compares features at least.
    
    If it were me, I'd stick to Informix or Ingres.
    
    ---- Michael Booth
601.2SorryNOVA::BOOTHWhat am I?...An Oracle?Wed Mar 28 1990 23:484
    I was wrong. Cognos does NOT run on Ultrix. They run on Unix, not
    Ultrix.
    
    ---- Michael Booth
601.3TROA09::NAISHRDB4ME Paul Naish DTN 631-7280Fri Mar 30 1990 00:2114
    Bob, PROGRESS has announced an RDB Gateway for their product. Since
    they operate in a client/server model, your customer may be interested.
    Their based in Bedford but I don't have a number.
    
    You can also find out more on ULTRIX CASE in a presentation store
    on esgnfo::user$2:[case]ultrix.ps. Also, there is a publication
    put out by the ESG/CASE Program Office listing third party products.
    Contact Mary (CURIE::) Burdick to get a copy. The title is "CASE
    Third-Party Product Update".
    
    You may also want to check the CASE, CASE_COMPETITIVE and ULTRIX/SQL
    notes files.
    
    Paul (no I'm not Phil Collins) Naish