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Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

Title:DEC Rdb against the World
Moderator:HERON::GODFRIND
Created:Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1348
Total number of notes:5438

576.0. "J.D. Edwards on AS/400" by NEWPRT::LANGSTON_BR () Mon Feb 19 1990 21:29

    I'm working with a customer/prospect who is looking at financial
    packages.  We're showing them Ross Systems and Timeline.
    
    The competition is AS/400 with J.D. Edwards software.
    
    Though this is not Rdb competition-related (yet), Ross has committed to
    porting to Rdb "within a year" and Timeline is talking about it.
    
    Does anyone have any competitive information or knock-offs about J.D.
    Edwards financials on AS/400?
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576.1ROSS? IBM note?PHLACT::QUINNTue Feb 20 1990 22:4412
    Howsabout...
    
    Get ROSS involved directly. They only run on VAX so they're a god
    friend and they probably have lots of knockoffs.
    
    Second, post your questions in KACIE::IBM. They are the AS/400 killers.
    
    Generic AS/400 bashing might work as well.
    
    
    thomas
    
576.2AS400 database woesDPDMAI::DAVISGBEscapee from New Hampshire...Thu Feb 22 1990 21:1345
    Customers should think about the database with regard to these
    applications and not just the financial software.
    
    AS400 leaves a lot to be desired!
    
From..VNS COMPUTER NEWS:     
    
 IBM - "Recovery Problems Plague IBM's AS/400"
	{MIS Week, 14-Aug-89, p. 1} {MISG}
   Electrical storms and other accidental power outages have made some users
 hot under the collar during the IBM mid-range AS/400's first full summer use,
 because the computer is slow to recover and has even lost data in some
 instances. Although most systems suffer some downtime after an accidental
 power outage, users report that the AS/400's recovery can take as long as 15
 hours, and still not restore data completely. Users and AS/400 developers said
 the problem stems from one of the aspects IBM has touted - its single-level
 storage architecture. That architecture was designed to enable System/38 and
 AS/400 users to input data without regard to where it is stored on the system. 
 While the single-level storage architecture makes the AS/400 easier to
 program, there is a downside. Storage space is allocated as needed across all
 available storage devices, analysts said. If one device fails and the data on
 it can't be recovered, it may be necessary to reload the data on all storage
 devices, which can lead to long recovery times, according Dave Andrews,
 president of ADM Inc., a consulting firm in Cheshire, Connecticut.

 IBM - "Buyers Confused by IBM's Mid-Range Strategy, Report Says"
	{MIS Week, 14-Aug-89, p. 11} {MISG}
   Buyers are confused about IBM's mid-range strategy due to overlapping
 systems and are questioning which machine is proper for their applications,
 said a report from the Aberdeen Group. The consulting firm also warned users
 against purchasing equipment based on IBM's benchmark claims. The Aberdeen
 Group is a Boston-based computer research and consulting organization which
 monitors users needs, technological changes and market developments. The
 report also sharply criticized IBM for what it calls Big Blue's "gamesmanship"
 in the "benchmarking wars." According to John R. Logan, an Aberdeen Vice
 President and author of the report, "We're constantly asked by confused buyers
 of mid-range systems, What are their products? Which ones should I be
 evaluating? Which ones are important at this point in time?"  Logan said the
 report was written following a two-day consultation with IBM on its mid-range
 strategy. IBM said it has four mid-range offerings: AS/400, 9370, RT PC, and
 the System/88 (the fault-tolerant system made by Stratus Computer Corp., which
 IBM is reselling). However, based on users' perspectives (which the Aberdeen
 Group said it ascertained during continuous survey work consisting of
 one-on-one interviews), IBM's mid-range offerings also include token-ringed
 PS/2s with OS/EE (OfficeVision/2 LAN) and 4300-class machines.