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Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

Title:	DEC Rdb against the World

Moderator:	HERON::GODFRIND

Created:	Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:	Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	1348
Total number of notes:	5438

504.0. "TRIFOX or QMF tools on Rdb?" by KETJE::VANTRICHT (Eddy VAN TRICHT) Wed Nov 29 1989 17:50

    We have an IBM customer which has trained his user on QMF
    (Query Management Facility).
    Now they are looking for a relational database on VAX to offload the
    IBM, however they want to avoid to retrain their users.
    
    It happens that Oracle has a product called SQL*QMX which simulate
    perfectly QMF (seems to be totaly similar for end-users).
    
    I also heard some rumours that this product was originally developped
    by TRIFOX. This company has some tools working with Rdb, so there
    is maybe hope to find there a similar product directly working with
    Rdb.
    
    Can anyone give me a description of TRIFOX tools or at least contact,
    phone or address of TRIFOX ?

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
504.1	The number is below !	SNO78C::BELAKHOV	The ORACLEBUSTER !!!	`Sun Dec 03 1989 23:19`	23
	Eddy, I do not know anything about the SQL*QMX product other than Trifox developed it and Oracle is now marketing it. I am not sure if this product works with Rdb/VMS, but I know that Trifox have other products that do. The person that may be able to help you is : Brian Skone Marketing VP Trifox Inc 1095 E.Duane Avenue Sunnyvale, CA 94086 408-749-1331 408-749-1312 (FAX) Please reply once you have an answer on this, this could be a good sales opportunity in other accounts as well. Regards, Michael
504.2	info on TRIFOX	KETJE::VANTRICHT	Eddy VAN TRICHT	`Mon Dec 04 1989 12:34`	41
	I did contact TRIFOX (Brian Skone). He told me that they did indeed develop the SQLQMX product for ORACLE and the product was technically build such a way that it could run on any rel.db on the VAX (Rdb, Ingres, Sybase, ...). However he told me that ORACLE has EXCLUSIVE RIGHTS for 2 years on the QMF lookalike product, this makes it impossible for TRIFOX to help us before that delay expires ! We can now follow 3 alternatives strategies: 1) check if some other company has developped or could develop a similar product running with Rdb. 2) I heard also that ORACLE plans to announce an SQLCONNECT interface to Rdb. We could use this to suggest to our customer (which already uses Rdb) to only use SQLCONNECT and SQLQMF in conjunction with Rdb awaiting the availability (within 2y) of our QMF product. 3) suggest another product with similar and superior capabilities (however this is probably not what the customer wants because they want to offer similar functionality to their users on VAX and IBM and they want to avoid retraining their users on another product). PS : I received from Brian SKONE (TRIFOX) a FAX with a short description about their tools to facilitate migration of ORACLE applications to Rdb : TRIM/APP similar to Oracle's SQLForms TRIM/REPORT similar to Oracle's SQLRPT (reportwriter) TRIM/TRANSLATE utility for translations of Oracle SQL*Forms to TRIM/APP. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ TRIFOX is member of DIGITAL's RSVP (Rdb Solution Vendor Program) and is currently working towards an agreement to offer their services and products through DIGITAL's Center for Migration Services in Colorado Springs. For more information about TRIFOX tools and their relationship with DIGITAL please contact: Mr. TOM KOSKI (TYFYS::) Center for Migration Services DEC 1775 Telstar Drive, Suite 500 Colorado Springs , CO 80920 719-260-2030
504.3	available	SUBWAY::WANG		`Fri Feb 22 1991 18:32`	3
	That product is finally available! It is called TRIM/qmr (QS-HFEA9-NL), and our Center for Migration Servies sells it and suports it.