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Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

Title:DEC Rdb against the World
Moderator:HERON::GODFRIND
Created:Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1348
Total number of notes:5438

440.0. "Ultrix database help!!" by CBOSWS::FRYLAND () Thu Sep 28 1989 14:54

    Can anyone shed some light on the ability and options in accomplishing
    the following.  I'm familar with the VMS side of things but not
    with Ultrix.
    
    My customer is interested in doing all of their development work on
    Ultrix, specifically on a DECstation 3100.  They want to then be
    able to move the application to their VAXCluster running VMS.  The
    application will be a database application and we're trying to
    get them to use RDB.  I've determined ( I think ) that the application
    would be best written in portable C.  I'm trying to figure out if
    INGRES would be a good fit as far as the database product?  Does
    anyone have any comments on  this.  I'm not familiar with INGRES at
    all so any info would be greatly appreciated.  
    
    The idea here of course would be to have something that I can move
    over without any changes.  Is this realistic?  How close can we come?
    
    
    Thanks,
    
    Lee
    
    

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440.1Hmmm...why the Ultrix preference?DPDMAI::DAVISGBGil Davis DTN 554-7245Thu Sep 28 1989 21:147
    Any reason as to why they want to develop under Ultrix?  Seems that
    they would be able to do a better job with VMS' set of case and data
    management products, and then just copy it over!  Otherwise they'll be
    looking at a conversion effort.  
    
    Especially in light of the target system being VAX/VMS!
    
440.2ULTRIX/SQL...SRFSUP::LANGSTONLead Foot LangstonFri Sep 29 1989 02:2848
    While I also question why anyone would ever leave the cozy confines
    of VAX/VMS to do s/w development *especially* with VAX/VMS being the
    target, I pass along the following message I received today:  (btw,
    I have not verified that the below-referenced conference exists.)
    
There is a notes conference for UTRIX/SQL, SMURF::ULTRIX_SQL.



From:	AKOCOA::HAGGERTY "GIA Software Services  27-Sep-1989 1505" 27-SEP-1989 12:44:33.85
To:	@dist:databases
CC:	
Subj:	short product overview for ULTRIX/SQL database


ULTRIX/SQL is an integration of an industry standard SQL Distributed
Relational Database Management System (RDBMS) engine into the ULTRIX-32
Operating System in order to allow for development of portable
applications using standard compliant SQL.  ULTRIX/SQL Version 1.0 is
initially implemented using technology based on Relational Technology
Inc.'s INGRES RDBMS release 6.2.

Replies to this note may be used in the future to provide more detailed
general information on the product offerings.

The following family of products will initially be offered:

    o  ULTRIX/SQL Base System (licensed with ULTRIX-32 as of V4.0),
       including:

	  - ULTRIX/SQL RDBMS Engine 

	  - NET and STAR (remote access & distributed DB) functionalities

	  - Database Administrator and Optimization Tools

	  - User and DBA Documentation, including on-line man pages

    o  Embedded SQL precompilers for (initially) C, FORTRAN, and ADA

    o  ULTRIX/SQL <-> VAX-Rdb/SQL Translators for C and FORTRAN

    o  Rdb Gateway for Rdb accesses from ULTRIX/SQL environment

    o  DSRI Bridge for ULTRIX/SQL access from Rdb environment

    o  ISV and Digital Front-end Tools

440.3It's SMURFYDPDMAI::DAVISGBGil Davis DTN 554-7245Fri Sep 29 1989 02:355
    Yes, it exists..as shown in note 436 I believe..
    
    where you can also press KP7 to add!!!
    
    (and......Be prepared to get religion.)
440.4Need info on writing portable applicationsCOOKIE::BERENSONI&#039;m the NRAMon Oct 02 1989 19:355
So, the correct answer is, if the customer has good reason to do
cross-development they want to use Ultrix/SQL (or whatever we call the
thing when it is finally product announced, remember it is only PROGRAM
announced).  The main reason is that there will be documentation on how
to write portable applications!