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| 404.1 | re:404 | PARVAX::FITZGIBBONS | | Wed Aug 30 1989 23:34 | 10 |
| Ingres will not be supported under Ultrix until version 6 is fully
available in November (according to local RTI sources in NJ). The
RISC platform will be supported in roughly the same timeframe.
It will support TCP/IP via DECnet/Ultrix, Fusion, Wollongong.
If you have a PC Unix desktop environment, the Ingres/PClink (not
yet available under version 6) will allow to extract data from
the VAX to the PC while utilizing TCP/IP.
Mayo Edghill
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| 404.2 | Ingres on Ultrix supported since last year | SMURF::FRIEDMAN | Joshua Friedman | Fri Sep 01 1989 02:59 | 19 |
| Ingres 5.0 has been shipping and has been fully supported since at least
December of '88, since we have a version (5.0/04a) that's that old (I know
we had a version before that as well, but I wasn't around then). This
version supports the NET and STAR functionalities using TCP/IP or DECnet.
The newest release on Ultrix is 5.0/06a VAX or 5.0/06 MIPS (RISC), and has
been shipping since roughly mid June of this year. The RISC platform does
not yet support DECnet, though the VAX Ultrix version does (and the VMS
platform does not yet support DEC's VMS TCP/IP, just Wollongong or DECnet).
Ingres 6.2 will be the first release 6 version of the product released
on Ultrix, and RTI will begin its field test in October of this year
(on Ultrix 3.0 / 3.1).
I don't know why the "RTI sources in NJ" said they won't be supporting
Ultrix until version 6; version 5 has been fully supported for Ultrix as
I've described above.
--Josh Friedman
Ultrix Engineering
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| 404.3 | THIS IS WHY YOU BUY FROM THE VENDOR! | COOKIE::BERENSON | VAX Rdb/VMS Veteran | Sat Sep 02 1989 21:21 | 20 |
| And people complain when various DEC products don't ship compatible versions!
Over a year after V6 announcement, INGRES still isn't shipping it on all
platforms and not all of their related products work with V6!
The story is the same with ORACLE. Over a year after announcement they
still aren't shipping their latest version on all platforms, and they
still aren't shipping the full functionality they announced!
This is the kind of stuff we should really use against them (on VMS at
least). What good is ORACLE's portability message when the versions on
different platforms are so out of synch that you can't use any new
features (if you want the applications to be portable) for years after
announcement!
As for RTI, we need to work this problem so that products DEC is relying
on, like Ultrix INGRES and INGRES-TOOLS-FOR-RDB are amongst the first
things they release rather than the last ports! Otherwise, our
relationships with them will leave us at a disadvantage versus
competitors (and RTI itself on other platforms).
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| 404.4 | A litlle Competitive Problem | QUILL::BOOTH | What am I?...An Oracle? | Sun Sep 03 1989 04:16 | 10 |
| The RTI agreement for Sun ports first was in existence before the
RTI-Digital agreement. That will make it hard to change.
The versioning synchronization problem is used competitively agsinst
these vendors. But it's kind of a catch-22. Oracle's versions are very
late. But Oracle PC applications are portable to the VAX. Not so with
RTI (with whom we have a marketing agreement), whose PC version is out
of sync with the VAX version.
---- Michael Booth
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