| Title: | DEC Rdb against the World |
| Moderator: | HERON::GODFRIND |
| Created: | Fri Jun 12 1987 |
| Last Modified: | Thu Feb 23 1995 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 1348 |
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Hi,
I'm a Database Sales Support Specialist that needs some help addressing
a customer's concerns about RDB vs PACE from WANG. They have been
using PACE for the last year to support an information database for
the state's highway and travel department. The users are VERY happy
with PACE and appear to be resisting a change. The following seem to
be the priorities for them:
- User friendly application/4GL access to database
- Distributed Database capabilities
- Utilize current knowledge base/experience levels.
I've had the opportunity to review the Introduction to PACE manual
and it appears to be quite user friendly. Since the customer is
being directed by another department to transition to VAX, I would
like to help them feel comfortable with DEC's ability to meet the
requirements they are currently supporting with PACE. Additionally,
I think it would be very helpful to be able to differentiate RDB.
I would appreciate any input related to -
- competing with PACE (What worked well for you?)
- using PACE (How is RDB (and/or DEC) different/better?)
Any input is appreciated!
Sharon
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| 394.1 | VAX RALLY is a good way to go !!! | SNO78C::BELAKHOV | Oh, my god, it's full of stars. | Fri Aug 04 1989 08:11 | 7 |
Have a look at VAX RALLY in my opinion it is better than PACE and
Rdb/VMS is certainly a much more comprehensive database than anything
that WANG can offer.
There is a myriad of 4GL's and tools which talk to Rdb/VMS, so between
RALLY and the third party solutions you should have a very good
story to tell.
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| 394.2 | More options for the customer | MAIL::DUNCANG | Gerry Duncan @KCO | Fri Aug 04 1989 14:22 | 14 |
re: the "user friendly" access. If Rally is too un"user" friendly
for your customer, try Smartstar. I have a customer that loves
Smartstar. Since my customer is using CDD+ and Smartstar provides
integration to the CDD+, it was a good fit for us.
I try to position Rdb as having an open architecture which actually
gives the customer a number of choices and styles to access the
database. For instance, SAS (statistical package) has a direct
interface to Rdb, Teamdata for non-workstation users provides some
graphics (pie, bar, etc) on VT330, VT340, DECdecision on a workstation
has direct access, and all the 4gl vendors such as Smartstar, Focus,
Informix etc.
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| 394.3 | Thanks for the feedback! | AUSTIN::BEMOWSKI | Fri Aug 04 1989 17:00 | 14 | |
re. .1 & .2
Thank you both for your input. Looking at the PACE documentation and
talking with a contact that has experience with the WANG product
confirms your input to focus our customer's attention on RALLY and/or
other 4GL solutions that work well with RDB.
re. .2
Thanks for the added info about SAS working with RDB. Just yesterday
someone asked me about using SAS with RDB and I was planning to look
into it today. Thanks for saving me the time!
Sharon
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| 394.4 | late answer from an old Wang employee | EMILE::BRIQUET | Wed Sep 27 1989 15:59 | 24 | |
Hi,
Please allow me to introduce myself, my name is laurent BRIQUET, and I
work in the swas group in paris for ten month. Before I was working for
four years in Wang company.
The most important difference between PACE/RDB are:
- non existent SQL language with PACE
- PACE use compiled dictionnary, so no interactive changes are
allowed.
_ HLI language with PACE (Host Language Interface) is only
macro-instructions wich are inserted in cobol programs.
- Application Builder (L4G) could be compared to RALLY. With it you
can create an application wich allow:
. creation
. update
. delete
. query
. select records......
but only on database table.
I hope that these information might help you, and if you need more
information, send me a mail on PRSNRD::briquet
regards laurent BRIQUET
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