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| Title: | DEC Rdb against the World |
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| Moderator: | HERON::GODFRIND |
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| Created: | Fri Jun 12 1987 |
| Last Modified: | Thu Feb 23 1995 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 1348 |
| Total number of notes: | 5438 |
375.0. "Sometimes I get so torqued off!" by CSOA1::CARLOTTI (I have an Erie feeling about this...) Fri Jun 23 1989 16:49
My customer bought Rdb and is now evaluating 4gl "tools" to run on top of
Rdb.
One of the vendors is our buddy, RTI (Ingres).
Their salesman presented the Ingres Tools to the customer and went away with
some technical questions to follow up on. Here are a couple of the answers:
Q: Are there any additional database administration issues as a result of
installing Tools-for-Rdb?
A: There are no additional responsibilities. However, you may elect
to use certain INGRES commands because they provide greater
flexibility than the corresponding RDB command. For example, the
INGRES "COPY" command provides additional functionality.
Q: Does INGRES' Tools-for-Rdb interface with the CDD?
A: Currently, INGRES Release 5 does not, however, Release 6, which is
scheduled for September/October 1989, will interface with the CDD.
Our people tell me that our active data dictionary provides far
greater benefit than the CDD. However, we expect that the CDD will
be significantly enhanced in the not too distant future.
Apparently the CDD is geared more for RMS files currently.
At least they copied me on this letter (why stab me in the back when you
can insult me to my face?).
I guess I'm just reiterating: "Be careful with third party tools vendors...
some of them are also our competitors"!
Rick C
P.S.: Actually, ALL of the tools vendors are our competitors (with all
due respect to RALLY and Teamdata)!
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| 375.1 | Is he talking about CDD or CDD/plus? | DPDMAI::DAVISGB | Uh Oh...another Balloonist! | Fri Jun 23 1989 19:15 | 2 |
| Sounds like someone needs to educate these folks about CDD/plus...
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| 375.2 | I agree - be careful with ISV's | GUIDUK::HEALY | Alan Healy, SWS/SEO | Tue Jun 27 1989 22:18 | 13 |
| I agree about being careful with these guys... we brought in Ingres to
show their tools because a customer had the perception that Teamdata
and Rally are not good tools.
After seeing Ingres tools, the customer was very unimpressed. The
Ingres rep said "Gee, I wish I could show you our CURRENT tools - these
are the 'old ones'". Customer: current tools? "Yeah, they're really
neat - but they only run on our database right now". Customer: let's
see the new tools.
Result: Ingres sold their database along with their new (V6) tools.
Al
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