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Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

Title:DEC Rdb against the World
Moderator:HERON::GODFRIND
Created:Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1348
Total number of notes:5438

368.0. "ALLBASE INFO NEEDED" by ZPOV01::JEFFREYCHOY (Rdb against Oragres all the time) Fri Jun 09 1989 04:56

    Hello network friends,
    
    I need some bullets to take on Oracle on Sequent and ALLBASE on
    HP.
    
    Oracle may be slower than Rdb on Vaxes but our competitor is proposing
    a bigger and more powerful Sequent at a cheaper price to make up
    for the lack of performance. 
    
    ALLBASE is something new and said to have an excellent user interface.
                                 
    I would appreciate any contributions.
    
    regards, Jeffrey
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368.1Some AnswersQUILL::BOOTHWhat am I?...An Oracle?Fri Jun 09 1989 23:1125
    Hello, Jeffrey.
    
    The biggest issue with Oracle on Sequent is where does the customer get
    commercial applications? After all, we are talking about a parallel
    processing UNIX machine, not the most common animal. The Oracle
    implementation on Sequent is good. However, often the price of the
    Oracle software plus Sequent hardware is higher than Rdb on a VAX.
    
    Allbase is HP's proprietary database. It is really a comibination of a
    relational database, Allbase, and a network model, Turbo Image. There
    is an HP SQL interface to both databases. The Allbase tools are also
    available for the VAX Rdb environment. They are sold by HP as
    Allbase/4GL. They are sold for the VAX Rdb as TODAY by Computer Power
    in Australia. And yes, they are very effective tools.
    
    As for the HP database, it is brand new. Unclear how effective the
    relational part is. Turbo-Image has a very long track record in small
    applications.
    
    I'd dispense with Oracle/Sequent as a "niche" solution. No applications
    software, lack of support, etc.
    
    The "lack of applications" issue should have some effect on HP as well.
    
    ---- Michael Booth