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Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

Title:DEC Rdb against the World
Moderator:HERON::GODFRIND
Created:Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1348
Total number of notes:5438

231.0. "Does Oracle..." by LAIDBK::VICTOR () Thu Oct 27 1988 19:02

    Does Oracle provide a database server with their product mix (with
    TPS and without TPS) or does each user attach to their database?
    
    When Oracle publishes their benchmark information are they using
    primarily 3GL code or 4GL code or is it just SQL with no forms?
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231.1Keep LookingMDVAX1::DUNCANGGerry Duncan @KCOThu Oct 27 1988 20:1024
    If you read most of the Oracle topics in the conference in the last
    3-5 months, I believe you'll find your answers... but here goes:

>>    Does Oracle provide a database server with their product mix (with
>>    TPS and without TPS) or does each user attach to their database?
    
    Each user attaches to the database.  Depending on the version, there
    are detached processes which run to do things like buffer writing,
    AIJ and BI file work, etc.  I'm not sure your question was very
    clear.
        
>    When Oracle publishes their benchmark information are they using
>    primarily 3GL code or 4GL code or is it just SQL with no forms?

    Don't give their benchmark numbers the time of day !!!  It doesn't
    matter what they used because they don't match any business environment
    I've ever seen.  Also, I can tell you from a recent experience that
    Oracle V6 w/TPS **DID NOT** run faster on the 6240 than the 8820
    or the 8840 in a batch processing benchmark so don't believe for
    a minute that crap that Oracle puts out about how fast they are
    on the 6240 vs the 88xx series.  You and the customer must decide
    by yourselves !!
    
    Gerry    
231.2No Forms, I ThinkBROKE::BOOTHWhat am I?...An Oracle?Fri Oct 28 1988 19:584
    The current Oracle benchmark is 3GL code with SQL...no SQL*Forms...but
    SQL*Plus was used.
    
    ---- Michael Booth
231.3Mercury used 3GLUSHS11::SPARKSMon Nov 07 1988 16:2811
    I talked to the Database Manager for Mercury Comm in UK who did
    a benchmark that Oracle is displaying to all their customers and
    prospective customers.  They did all the benchmark in 3GL fortran
    I believe, and while they are thrilled with the results themselves,
    they admitted to spending months getting the machine tuned to work
    at these levels, both in the VMS params and Oracle params.  I suspect
    by the time you get your VAX working at these levels nothing well
    written will run on it.  I do know that they partitioned off 6 meg
    of memory for Oracles SGA.
    
    Sparky