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Title:DEC Rdb against the World
Moderator:HERON::GODFRIND
Created:Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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214.0. "Oracle User Group Trip Reports" by DEBIT::DREYFUS () Wed Oct 12 1988 00:42

This topic is reserved for trip reports from the Oracle User Group
that took place Oct 2 - Oct 6, 1988.

--david


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214.1state of oracle. report overviewDEBIT::DREYFUSWed Oct 12 1988 01:15141
 






                                                             David Dreyfus
                                                    Database Systems Group
                                                              DTN 381-2893
                                                            DEBIT::DREYFUS
  11-October-1988

                   Review of Oracle's User Group Meeting

  The Oracle User Group meeting was held in Orlando, FL from Oct 2 to
  Oct 6. The style of the meeting would make "The Oracle Sales Meeting"
  a more appropriate title. The meeting consisted of Oracle product
  marketing and management people pitching new products and new versions
  of old products. The sales presentations where interspersed with user
  testimonials. I was unable to find Oracle engineers anywhere. The
  closest I came was sales support.

  The birds-of-a-feather and SIG (special interest group) meetings were
  sparse and held late at night (to maintain miminal attendance). The
  general sessions did not allow for questions.

  An 'executive' panel for answering questions was held at the end of
  the week. This panel read prepared responses to a questionaire that was
  completed by the user community earlier in the week.


  There was nothing ad-hoc about this meeting.

  1  State of the Company


  How does Larry Ellison, President of Oracle, see the world?

  Ellison sees workstations replacing terminals which will be connected to
  mainframes through workgroup mini-computers. There will be a need for
  higher quality user interfaces and a move towards network computing.


  In order to make the move to network computing successful, an order of
  magnitude improvement in performance and productivity will be required.
  In addition a migration strategy is needed. These improvements are
  required so that we don't lose productivity as we move to a network
  computing environment. The productivity is required to help migrate
  existing mainframe software. The performance is required to handle the
  increased user load.

  Ellison acknowledged that Oracle's tools are not integrated and that
  they will need to become so. He also talked about the need for semantic
  rules in the database like integrity constraints and 'valid if' clauses
  [which Rdb currently has]. [From a database point of view, it would
  appear that Rdb already has the productivity that Ellison is just
  talking about.]


  Ellison claims that the performance of Oracle V6 with TPS provides the
  performance increase that is required for network computing. [This is
  also good since Rdb is faster than Oracle.] Ellison also said that the
  VAX 8840 was broken [since Oracle doesn't run well with it] and that the
  VAX 6240 was a good machine.




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  In order to help in the migration, Oracle will be building many of the
  'mundane' applications like financials, e-mail, office automation, etc.


  Ellison gave a great deal of emphasis on the need to transfer technology
  to the consumer (customer). Of Oracle's 3000 employees, 1500 are
  involved in technology transfer - Support, training, onsite consulting.
  [Probably also sales and sales support.] Having the greatest technology
  isn't worth anything if no one is using it. Oracle claims they spend a
  lot of effort helping people use the technology [or at least buy it].

  1.1  Other Notes


  Oracle is downplaying the importance of distributed database technology.
  They are positioning as only for pioneers, not the masses.

  Oracle has seven industry sales groups: pharmacuticals, re-
  tail/distribution, finance, manufacturing, Federal government, state
  and local government, and telecommunications.


  Oracle's strategic marketing partners are: Novell, INI, Interlink,
  Lotus, and Intellicorp. Oracle is especially happy with their Novell
  partnership and are working with them to development integrated network
  offerings. In particular, Oracle was setting itself up to help install
  networks because of the complexity of the tasks. Oracle would, of
  course, provide the data backbone for the network. Although I have
  no specifics, it seemed clear that Oracle was moving in the hardware
  direction [will the CPU and disks be next].

  Oracle's product lines include: database, development and design tools,
  decision support products, office automation products, applications,
  service, and consulting. Oracle wants to be your full service and
  support vendor for information integration providing "Enterprise wide
  solutions."


  Oracle's goals over the next few years: Raising competitive barriers,
  broadening their business base, managing high growth, and moving into
  hyper-growth. According to Oracle, their recent growth was flat compared
  to what will come.

  The company with hyper-hype will achieve hyper-growth with integration
  with hyper-card??? Actually, Oracle is entering the bread-and-butter
  Digital markets: Networks, OA, database, consulting, service, and
  systems integration. It would not be surprising to see Oracle gaining
  account control and then moving accounts to a mix of HP, Sequent,
  Harris, Prime, and DG equipment. It would be in their best interest.


  In order to manage the new product lines and hyper-growth, Oracle has
  formed independent business units. Each unit has its own marketing and
  engineering groups. For example, CASE products are built in the UK.








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214.2Oracle products past,present,futureDEBIT::DREYFUSWed Oct 12 1988 01:17425
 






                                                             David Dreyfus
                                                    Database Systems Group
                                                              DTN 381-2893
                                                            DEBIT::DREYFUS
  11-October-1988

                       Oracle New Product Information

  1  Financials

  A lot of presentations and booth space were devoted to Oracle's
  new financial applications. They are designed to demonstrate the
  applicability of the Oracle DBMS. The person in charge of financials has
  a theory that mainframe computing has almost destroyed the US economy
  because all information is moved to a centrallized location is never
  seen again. Oracle financials are supposed to distributed the data back
  to the users.


  Ross systems is seen as a puny competitor. M & D and MSA are a bit more
  interesting.

  Ease-of-use, power, and flexibility are touted. The product is supposed
  to be usable even without documentation. The same system will be
  provided on PCs and mainframes. Some of the comments from competitors
  are that it is very expensive and not as functional as it should be. It
  does demo well.


  Oracle will be announcing joint promotion of the financial package on
  HP and Sequent. [ just think what can happen if they are sold on a VAX
  ... and then upgraded to a HP]. The financials are also supposed to
  integrate with Oracle-Mail so that reports can be sent automatically. In
  addition, the financial applications will integrate with Oracle-Mail so
  that 'live forms' can be sent through the mail and completed by another
  person before the application resumes execution.

  2  SQL*FORMS 3.0 and SQL*MENU 5.0


  Still in development are these saviors of Oracle's application
  development product line (production in Summer 89 [can you say 90?].
  Even the Oracle sales support people were telling me how awfull
  SQL*FORMS 2.3 was. 3.0 fixes all the problems with: Online help, context
  sensitive help, a standard Oracle look-and-feel, and a built in text
  editor for triggers (oracle triggers) and long fields (The audience
  wanted a user definable editor. The response: "we'll look into it."
  ). Other new capabilities will be the ability to copy or reference
  triggers, fields, blocks and other objects in a SQL*FORMS application
  between applications. [The copy capability and the common look and feel
  are currently major wins for Ingres.]

  Included with the new versions will be expanded reporting capabilities
  on the use of various objects (blocks, tables, etc) within SQL*FORMS
  applications. [This appears to be a superset of CDD's pieces tracking
  capability - from a report generation point of view.] Another major hit
  should be fixed with version 3.0 when 3GL programs should be able to
  call SQL*FORMS as a subroutine.




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  Other features will include pop-up windows, dynamic field attribute
  control, automatic master-detail form generation, and field masking
  (edit control on a field).


  PL/SQL, the new proprietary extensions to SQL will be available
  for use SQL*FORMS as part of V3.0 (no added cost. TPS will not be
  required). This is a great enhancement for SQL*FORMS because current
  implementations must call the database kernel for such things as
  simple arithmetic, field comparisons, and other simple operations. The
  inclusion of PL/SQL should dramatically improve SQL*FORMS performance
  [we should be able to just say it is slow, not deathly slow.] PL/SQL
  will finally give SQL*FORMS and Oracle a 4GL capability - the syntax
  looks like TPU. Right now they have limited forms capability with a good
  connection to the database.

  One of the goals for SQL*FORMS is device independence. The same
  application should execute on block mode, char cell, and bit mapped
  terminals. The goal is to isolate the runtime characteristics from the
  display characteristics. [What a concept.]


  The SQL*FORMS debugger will be added/improved to allow a user to step
  through form statements (Oracle triggers) and examine variables at each
  point.

  3  Textretrieval


  From a UK-based business unit, the market will soon see SQL*TextRetrieval.
  This product will, according to Oracle, unite data and text for the
  first time. Built on the Oracle kernel and SQL*FORMS, this product will
  add a few tables to the database and allow for free-text retrieval. Some
  of the features are the support of synonyms, broader terms (beverage is
  a broader term for milk), narrower terms (milk is a narrower term from
  beverage), preferred terms, hit lists (only index these words), and stop
  lists (don't index these words). They have added a new keyword to SQL,
  CONTAINS, which allows booleans, wildcards, and proximity matching.

  4  CASE tools


  Oracle's CASE offering comprises two products and a methodology:
  CASE*Dictionary (AKA SQL*Design Dictionary), CASE*Designer, and the
  Oracle design methodology. The sales pitch is that you can't do ad-hoc
  design for corporate computing and distributed computing. Prototyping
  just doesn't work anymore. Oracle's CASE tools provide the methods,
  repository, workbench, rule-based diagrams, generators, automated
  technicques, and project planning to solve the problem. Some of the
  functionality is here today.

  The CASE*Dictionary provides many reports and utilities that will check
  design quality, check completeness, cross reference, and produce a
  default database schema (with the SQL DDL). New versions will support
  overlapping applications and version control. One of the people in
  charge of the product claim that VAX CDD/Plus has about 50% of this
  functionality.





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  The CASE*Designer is a workstation based tool that supports rule-based
  and free-hand digramming of the business problem. Entity-relationships
  and hierarchical diagrams are supported. Bascially, this is a simple
  graphics editor with a strong connection to the data dictionary.


  The CASE*Designer is still in beta (V1.0). The CASE*Dictionary is in
  beta on the VAX.

  5  Office Automation


  Oracle's office automation thrust will unite database and OA, something
  that they consider to be traditionally two different product lines.
  Oracle will change this by providing OA products that work with the
  database. By the time that Oracle is finished, there will be schedulers,
  calanders, word processing, spreadsheets, applications, and mail.

  Oracle will be providing their own mail system running on Oracle and
  using SQL*NET to provide hardware independent mail systems. The mail
  system will have the familar Oracle look-and-feel and will be menu
  driven. Gateways will be provided to Unix mail, VMS mail, and X.400.
  This will allow users on any system to access any other system. Mail
  messages will be stored once on each system with all the recipients of a
  message getting a pointer to the mail message.


  Some of the interesting features of Oracle Mail are the integration
  of Mail with applications. For example, a purchasing application will
  display a form for a PO. If you don't have the authority to approve an
  expenditure, the application will send the form to your supervisor (or
  someone with approval authority) through Oracle mail. The supervisor
  can fill out the form (the form is live, as if in an application). When
  complete, the form will be returned to you for further processing.

  Oracle will be providing an API so allow mail to be embedded in
  applications. In fact, the mail interface is just an application using
  the mail API.


  Mail users will have to be enterred into the mail system [ let's see,
  once for VMS, once for Oracle, once for Oracle mail. Keep those system
  admin people busy.] Also, how space is managed for each user is not
  clear.

  Another part of the current OA offering is integration with All-in-1.
  Oracle will be adding additions to All-in-1 menus and allow the movement
  of documents between All-in-1 folders and Oracle folders. I don't know
  how tight the level of integration is.


  6  Secure Database

  This session explained current (5.1) capabilities, 6.0 capabilities and
  future capabilities in the area of secure databases.







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  Currently, users can audit database connections, attempts to access
  non-existent objects, SQL commands requiring DBA resources, access by
  object (by operation, per access and per session). The audit trail data
  is stored in database tables.


  How does this compare to Rdb?

  6.0 will add better password encryption and additional views on the
  audit information tables.


  The future goal is to become the premier commercial and military secure
  RDBMS product. With partial funding from an agency of US intelligence,
  Oracle has a 2.5 year project to produce a secure database.

  Version 6.1 (potentially) will have group level access controls in
  addition to the user level controls currently used. Users will be
  grouped into roles and roles will be given certain priveledges. Oracle
  will create a separate security officer from the DBA in order to
  offload security issues from other DBA issues. The new product will
  be compatible with external security mechanisms like those available
  on IBM systems. The new product will have the ability to change object
  ownership, application level security, password control/expiration, and
  login control by terminal, time, day, number of unsuccessful attempts,
  etc. [Many of these features are already in VAX ACMS.]


  Future goals will include C2 and B level security.

  7  Version 6.0 with TPS


  Although reports abound about what version 6.0 with TPS will have, here
  is a short list: system generated sequence numbers (to help generate
  primary key), savepoints and abort to savepoints (within a transaction),
  commit and rollback are now in SQL, Nulls are sorted above non-nulls,
  SQL code can be +100 to signal end-of-data (for embedded programs),
  STORAGE clause added to CREATE and ALTER TABLE commands (replaces
  existing STORAGE statement), resourse priveledges by tablespace, new
  data dictionary views, UPDATES with empty subqueries in set clauses
  return NULL (as opposed to aborting statement), set transaction read-
  only for nmulti-query snapshots, and national language characters &
  collating sequences.

  Version 6.1 should become 100% ANSI compliant, will increase the
  integration of PL/SQL, will add user defined ADT (abstract data types),
  and will support stored procedures.


  Version 6.0 without TPS won't be available for a year as Oracle needs
  to figure out how to backout many of the changes. The users were real
  pissed-off about the price of TPS.

  PL/SQL is procedural SQL. The sytax looks something like VAX TPU.
  You can declare local variables, you can use loops, conditional, and
  boolean expressions. Through PL/SQL groups of SQL statements are sent
  to the kernel at the same time. The kernel was upgraded to handle the
  new syntax. You can mix and match PL/SQL and PRO*C statements (other
  languages too).


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  PL/SQL will go beta when V6.0 with TPS is released!!

  A final word of caution. Oracle V6.0 with TPS includes the syntax for
  referential integrity. It is not implemented yet.


  8  SQL*Connect V1.0

  SQL*Connect is part of the SQL*Star architecture. The purpose of this
  product is to allow DB2 and SQL/DS databases to be included in an
  Oracle distributed database or to be accessed directly by Oracle tools.
  SQL*Connect will reside on the IBM machine and will sit on top of DB2 in
  order to give DB2 an Oracle interface.


  SQL*Connect is currently in beta with production planned for spring. The
  current version will only allow SQL*Plus access using DB2's dynamic
  SQL interface. None of the Oracle tools, report writers, or user
  applications will be able to use SQL*Connect V1.0 to access DB2. [real
  usefull ...]. In addition, the DB2 error messages are passed back to
  the user and are not converted to Oracle error messages. PL/SQL will not
  work against SQL*Connect.

  Future versions will read-write IMS and read RMS and VSAM.


  It appears that we will have a real edge with our VIDA program where
  everything looks like VAX Rdb.

  9  Application Foundation


  For the price of SQL*FORMS you will soon be able to purchase a SQL*FORMS
  based product that makes application development easier. [One product
  for the price of two. What a deal.] This product will give you 10 times
  the productivity of SQL*FORMS because it has pop-up windows, context
  sensitive help, an intuitive interface, application level security,
  quick-pick windows (pop-up window to select a value), lotus or MAC
  interface, stackable forms (table top metaphore) on screen, and some
  audit capability. The big push is to provide a standard Oracle look-and-
  feel to products and to users' applications.

  Some other features include the generation of master-detail forms,
  flex fields (coded and decoded fields), some mechanism for controlling
  batch/concurrent processing, and a long field editor. Some new concepts
  are context sensitive form navigation and graphs. This product seems
  to contain many of the features planned for SQL*FORMS V3.0. This was
  the tool that Oracle built in order to easily build their financial
  applications. SQL*FORMS would have extended development time for years.


  10  User group enhancement requests

  The final session of the user group week had Oracle representatives
  deliver prepared responses to a questionaire that the users filled out
  earlier in the week. There was no interactive questioning at any time.
  The following is an abbreviated prioritized list of what users wanted
  and the Oracle response.


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  o  Referential Integrity


     6.0 has the syntax. 6.1 will have the full implementation (no
     cascading deletes, though).
  o  Resource monitoring to warn of increased use by user.


     Version 7.0.
  o  Dynamic space management


     No.
  o  PL/SQL should come for free.


     We need to recoup our investment.
  o  SQL optimizer should not be position dependent (dependent on how the
     query was written. Dependendent on the order of the FROM list).


     Version 7.0





































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214.3Oracle: technical insights and knock-offsDEBIT::DREYFUSWed Oct 12 1988 01:22283
 






                                                             David Dreyfus
                                                    Database Systems Group
                                                              DTN 381-2893
                                                            DEBIT::DREYFUS
  11-October-1988

                        Oracle Technical Information

  This report provides an overview of how Oracle V6.0 with TPS works and
  what to watch out for. The following list contains the highlights with
  details to follow.


  o  Cluster support


     While Oracle can finally provide automatic recovery and after-image
     journaling (when 6.0 goes production next year), there are still many
     concerns about cluster performance. Performance rapidly degrades in a
     VAXcluser.

     If a database can be accessed by another cluster (ORA.INIT set to
     allow multiple instances of a database), performance drops by 25%.
     If a second node actually creates a second instance (attaches to
     a database), performance can actually drop by considerably more,
     providing a linear decrease in performance as hardware is added.

  o  Multiple databases and multiple users

     In order to access a database, the database must have an instance.
     There is one instance per database, per node. An instance includes
     all the user processes (one per user) plus five other processes
     (database read-write, log file read-write, system monitor, process
     monitor, and archiver). Thus, if 5 users access 5 different
     databases, the system must handle 25 VMS processes. Just think about
     the performance of a system where each user had a personal database.

  o  The preferred method for reclaiming database space

     Export/Import the database.

  o  Limitations to On-line backup

     Oracle has introduced the notion of a binary control file that
     provides the key to the database and describes where all the files
     are. If these little files are lost or broken, the database is
     trashed. You can only recover a database to the date of the control
     file. For this reason, Oracle recommends that you have multiple
     control files. In order to backup a control file, you must shutdown
     the Oracle database. So much for 7X24 operation (or is that 6.9X24).

  o  Limitations to database recovery

     There is no way to recover a database up to a point in time. A
     database can only be recovered to the current time. So, if you
     destroyed your database within the last 5 minutes, too bad. You won't
     be able to recover to 5 minutes ago.

  o  Limitations to archiving the redo (AIJ for you Dec folk) file



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     We were told that various archive algorithms are under consideration.
     This is great since the product goes production in November
     (according to Oracle. I guess sometime next year. At least I wouldn't
     recommend using it till then.)

  o  Extensive beta

     With one month left in beta, Oracle has 170 bugs outstanding. More
     are sure to follow. Some of the previous bugs tended to hide other
     bugs: like the one that would allow database startup.


     Of the 60 V6.0 tapes sent to customers, 15 are in the active beta
     program.
  o  Minimum database size


     5 MB




  1  I/O performance and benchmarking


  Oracle claims that their new fast commit, deferred write, piggy-backed
  write scheme reduces I/O by 95% at commit time. This is because the I/O
  is done at other times - checkpoints, when another user needs the data
  over the cluster, etc.

  When Oracle ran its benchmark, the test lasted a whopping 5 minutes,
  how's that for realism. Checkpoints, the point at which data is written
  to disk, were set to happen at some point after the completion of the
  benchmark. When was the last time your database did no I/O?


  The I/O reducers fail to work in cluster systems because they all rely
  on large amounts of shared memory. VAXclusters, of course, don't have
  shared memory. This forces pages used by multiple nodes to be constantly
  written to disk.

  2  Locking


  Oracle has talked a lot about row level locking. When a database is set
  up for cluster access, performance drops by 25% because they now need to
  use a real lock manager. It seems that they way Oracle does record level
  locking is by setting a bit in the record and keeping the record in the
  shared memory region.

  It is not clear that they have record level locking over a cluster since
  the 'lock bit' is not visible over a cluster.


  Oracle also talks about how their record level locking works on index
  pages; thus, you can lock an index record without locking the whole page
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  3  The monitor


  It appears that you can only monitor I/O on a per user or per database
  basis. This is no help at all in determining how to place tables in
  TABLESPACEs. Rdb's RMU allows monitoring by area to provide information
  for effective partitioning.

  Oracle allows you to monitor lock information only for those locks that
  cause contention. It is not clear if they monitor deadlocks or how they
  handle deadlocks.


  According to one user, they had a 50% performance hit when using the
  monitor. Don't know if its true, but it is interesting.

  4  The redo log


  Each node on a cluster gets a segment of the redo (AIJ) log. Since
  Oracle does no dynamic extensions (as opposed to Rdb), when any segment
  fills, all nodes must checkpoint their database (lots of I/O) and then
  use a new redo log. In order to reuse the redo log, the data has to
  be written to tape. If the log fills as its being written to tape (and
  there are no more logs), the database stops. This is very probable with
  very big databases.

  5  Rollback logs


  The rollback segments are part of tablespaces. Each database should have
  more than one. The rollback segment is used for snapshot files as well
  as transaction rollback. If these get filled, the database stops. You
  need to have one rollback segment per VAXcluster node.

  Note that there will be a lot of contention on the rollback file (to the
  extent that caching all the information in shared memory doesn't work).
  Compare this to Rdb where RUJ and SNAPSHOT files are independent for
  much greater flexibility. Also note that you can have one SNAPSHOT file
  per area with Rdb to balance the I/O load.


  6  Memory usage

  In general, Oracle assumes that memory is cheap and available. All of
  their performance strategies assume a large global cache of memory. The
  use of massive memory avoids I/O and provides very good performance (as
  expected).


  When the massive shared memory assumption doesn't hold, performance
  rapidly degrades. Examples of this type of environment are VAXclusters
  (no shared memory), small VAXes (<128 MB), and multi-user systems.
  Examples in this last category are systems with many users, systems
  with many applications, and systems where other products need memory.
  Basically, we are still quite a few years away from free and infinite
  memory. Until that time, Oracle performance will suffer.





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  I should also note, however, that V6.0 performance is faster than
  Oracle's V5.1. This is good news for Oracle customers who have had
  to live with horrible performance. Of course, to get this higher
  performance, Oracle customers must purchase V6.0 with TPS.


  7  Benchmarking, memory, processing, and timing

  As we all know, Oracle ran its benchmark by using 15 TP generators on a
  VAX 6240 (thus there were only 15 transactions active in the database
  at any given point). Each transaction was timed from start transaction
  to commit. With 15 TP generators, the 6240 handled the 15 TP processes
  plus 5 Oracle instance processes. The available memory on the machine
  was then available for a large database cache. Since the test ran for
  only 5 minutes, the cache never filled, and no I/O was required.


  With VAX Rdb testing 1900 users accessed the database through VAX ACMS.
  Each user started a transaction every 100 seconds. Thus, 19 requests
  were initiated per second. The timing of each transaction begins when
  the user request is complete. This is not necessarily the same time
  the transaction is started. In order to make sure that 95% of the
  transactions completed in less than one second, a lot of overhead
  was incurred on the VAX 6240. This overhead consumed memory and CPU
  resources.

  Had the timing of each transaction started when the BEGIN TRANSACTION
  statement was executed, none of the overhead would have occurred. All
  the work performed to guarantee uniform response time could have been
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214.4Notes from Oracle's SQL JournalDEBIT::DREYFUSFri Oct 14 1988 20:3937
From Oracle's journal, Fall 1988:

Oracle and Prime Computer enter into a cooperative marketing agreement
where each company helps the other.

[would Oracle recommend Prime to a VAX customer?  Nah ...]

Oracle takes a large swipe at Sybase's single server architecture.
Oracle claims that the single server architecture can't take advantage
of SMP.  Oracle also claims that it is better to leave scheduling
and prioritization in the hands of the OS rather than the DBMS.

The Oracle architecture is 'multi-server'.  Basically, the Rdb style
of linking in kernel code with applications.  Oracle has 5 detached processors
that handle such things as data read-write, AIJ read-write, and process
monitoring.  All these processes use shared memory.

[It seems that we could take the argument for multi-server one step further.
Oracle requires that all I/O is centrallized through a single process.  This
would not seem to take advantage of SMP to the greatest extent possible.
The extensive dependency on shared memory also destroys Oracle's cluster
performance.  ACMS with Rdb provides a much more flexible server environment.]

Oracle pushes their Oracle product.

[Basically, Oracle has integrated with Hypercard by providing a library
(API) that is callable from Hypertalk.  Hypertalk looks like BASIC or worse.
According the Apple people at the Oracle User Group Meeting, none of the
Oracle tools are available on the MAC.  So much for being able to move
applications to any hardware environment.]

There was a largish article on how Novell's NetWare is the integrator
of networks.  This article was followed by one on Oracle for OS/2 on
a NetWare LAN.

[This complements the comments that Oracle execs have made about entering
the networking business with Novell as a partner.]
214.5Oracle User's Meeting Trip ReportBANZAI::MAHLERAndy MahlerSat Oct 15 1988 00:24388





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To:  Bruce                     Date:      13 October 1988

                               From:      Andy Mahler

                               Dept:      Database Systems 

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Subject:  Trip Report from the International ORACLE Users  Association

           Meeting in Orlando, October 2-6.





This was the once-a-year worldwide meeting of the International ORACLE

Users Group (IOUG), held from Sunday, October 2nd to Thursday, October

6th.



The meeting had a similar layout as DECUS,  with  concurrent  sessions

and  an  exhibit hall.  Whereas DECUS has a more technical focus, this

meeting was more marketing hype.  By the end of the last  day  I  felt

like  I  had  just  listened  to  4 days of sales presentations.  Most

answers to questions (and there was  very  little  time  allocated  to

them)  were that "next version fixes it" or "we'll have it in the next

version".  No presentations done at the meeting were by Engineers  and

the  campground  sessions  were done for an hour in the early evening,

thus  discouraging  people  from  attending.   All  ORACLE   sponsored

sessions  lasted as close to an hour as possible so no questions could

be asked.  However, talking with some of the users  and  meeting  with

ORACLE  technical  support  people one to one provided the most "good"

information.



The important highlights of the meeting are as follows:



      o  Larry Ellison's Welcome  Address  -  this  focused  on  where

         ORACLE will be headed for the next 2 years.



          -  Productivity is the first issue to handle.   He  sees  an

             order   of   magnitude  gain  to  build  applications  by

             supporting  5GL's,  moving  integrity  rules   into   the

             database   and  out  of  applications,  and  providing  a

             complete set of productivity tools (CASE).



          -  Performance  is  next  issue  to  handle  (this  includes

             price/performance).   At  last years meeting Ellison said

             that V6/TPS would be  10x  faster,  at  this  meeting  he

             stated  that  his  prediction  was  correct  and gave the

             following numbers:


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                 265 TPS      3090-600E (MVS)



                 124 TPS      Sequent Symmetry (UNIX)



                  49 TPS      VAX 6240 (VMS)



                 All were run with the TP1 benchmark (does not include

                 network-generating  transactions), with 15 batch jobs

                 for 5 minutes, with checkpoints (this is when I/O  is

                 done) set longer than 5 minutes.



             Also he gave some price/performance numbers:



              *  IBM/DB2    $53000/TPS



              *  ORACLE     $48000/TPS on IBM



              *  ORACLE     $15000/TPS on DEC



              *  ORACLE     $ 7000/TPS on UNIX



             And the goals for next  year  are  to  have  a  1000  TPS

             database  (didn't mention hardware) and also offer ORACLE

             for $2000/TPS.



          -  The last issue  for  the  next  2  years  is  to  provide

             conversion/transition   utilities.   This  means  writing

             gateways  for  the  SQL*Interconnect,  already  have  DB2

             gateway   and   will   be   looking   at  interfacing  to

             non-relational products like IMS, RMS and VSAM.





After Ellison were several more speakers, then we finally broke to the

concurrent  sessions.   I  will group what I picked up the rest of the

week into  specific  topics:   V6.0  Features  and  Architecture;  New

Products; Futures; and Other Notes.


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      o  V6.0 Architecture and Features



          -  Architecture



             Below is a diagram of the V6 system architecture and what

             one database instance would look like.



                 +--------------------------------------+               M

                 | +--------------------+   +---------+ |    SYSTEM     E

                 | |  database buffers  |   |  redo   | |    GLOBAL     M

                 | |                    |   | buffers | |     AREA      O

                 | +------ /| ----------+   /----/-|-\+ |   (BUFFERS)   R

                 +------- / | -------------/----/--|--\-+               Y

                         /  |             /    /   |   \

                        /   |            /    /    |    \

                       /    |           /    /     |     \           P

                      /     |          /    /      |      \          R

                   + / ---+ | ---+--- / +- / --+-- | -+--- \ +       O

                   | USER | DBWR | LGWR | SMON | PMON | ARCH |       C

                   +-- | -+- | --+---- \+------+------+ / | -+       E

                       |     |          \              /  |          S

                       |     |           \            /   |          S

                       |     |            \          /    |          E

                       |     |             \        /     |          S

                       |     |              \      /      |

                       |     |               \    /       |

         +---------+  +| --- | -----------+  +\  / +    + | ----------+  H

         | control |  | +------+ +----+   |  |redo-|+   | tape drives |  A

         | file(s) |  | | data | |roll|+  |  | log ||+  +-------------+  R

         +---------+  | |      | +----+|+ |  |files|||                   D

                      | |      |  +----+| |  +-----+||                   W

                      | +------+   +----+ |   +-----+|                   A

                      |       tables      |    +-----+                   R

                      +-------------------+                              E

                             database



             ORACLE will have this for every  accessible  database  on

             the system.  Note the 5 background processes, so if there

             were  3  database  on  the  system,  there  would  be  15

             background  processes.   Those 5 processes accomplish the

             following:



             1.  DBWR - Database Writer, performs the writing  of  the

                 data  to  the  buffers and also applying checkpointed

                 redo log files to the database.



             2.  LGWR - Log Writer, performs the writing of  the  redo

                 buffers to the redo log files.



             3.  SMON - System Monitor, monitors for  system  failures

                 (CPU and disk crashes, etc...).


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             4.  PMON - Process Monitor, monitors for process failures

                 (CTRL-Y, etc...).



             5.  ARCH - Archival, writes checkpointed redo  log  files

                 to tape for recovery purposes (if needed).



             The User Process is the actually  user(s).   The  control

             file   includes   physical   info   about   the  database

             (timestamps, list of files) and is updated at  checkpoint

             time  and  file  addition.   The idea is to keep multiple

             control files on different disks for fault-tolerence.  In

             a  cluster, ORACLE would have the instance information on

             the  other  nodes  as  well.   The  redo  log   file   is

             partitioned  into  N segments for N nodes in the cluster,

             when needed for recovery they go through a merge sort  on

             time  and  date  stamps.   Coordination  among the System

             Global Area is done through ASTs.



          -  Fast Commits



             This is similar to Group AIJ  Write,  it  piggybacks  the

             writing of the redo log buffers to the redo log file (the

             file is a combination of an AIJ file and a deferred-write

             file).



          -  Deferred Writes



             They use a Least-Recently-Used algorithm to flush buffers

             to   redo   buffers.    So   it  can  piggyback  multiple

             transactions into 1 buffer  and  write  multiple  buffers

             with 1 request (fast commit).



          -  Array Interface



             Moves multiple rows within a single packet



          -  PL/SQL (Procedural Language SQL)



             This is the transaction processing language that  handles

             multi-statement  database  requests,  they refer to it as

             "powerful procedural extensions to SQL".



          -  Row level locking



             This is accomplished by setting a bit in  the  record  to

             note  that it is locked (not sure they are doing anything

             with the VMS lock manager to accomplish this).



          -  Read Consistent Snapshots



             Rollback Segments, which is really a relation within  the


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             database  and  also  their  before-image  journal storage

             structure, are used in conjunction  with  time  and  date

             stamps to determine whether a "snapper" can see what's in

             the data tables or has to go through  an  algorithm  that

             has  the "snapper" looking in the global buffer, the redo

             log buffer, the redo log file or the rollback segment  to

             find the record.  You can have multiple rollback segments

             but when they fill up and can't be flushed, the  database

             halts.



          -  High Availability



             ORACLE now has Online Backup  and  Recovery.   Backup  is

             accomplished   by   starting   backup   and  all  current

             transactions will write to the redo log file and then  be

             applied after the backup completes.  Control files cannot

             be backed up online, therefore  it  is  not  truly  7x24.

             Recovery  is  done  by  using  a  command  procedure that

             prompts for the  archived  redo  log  files  (very  error

             prone,  and  you  need to know which came first, etc...),

             these files are applied while users are  writing  to  the

             current  redo  log  files.   They  do  not  have anything

             similar to an /UNTIL switch.  You can have multiple  redo

             log  files but if any of the above operations are running

             those files can't apply the "new" data, and when all  the

             redo log files become full the database halts.



          -  DBA Facilities



             SQL*DBA  is  a  new  facility   that   monitors   dynamic

             performance  of  users,  table  access, locks and I/O (to

             users or database  only,  not  per  relation).   It  also

             allows  changes to tune performance (but not online) like

             adjusting the buffer pool, redo  log  size,  spreading  a

             table  across  disks  and  locating tables and indexes on

             separate disks.



          -  SQL conformance



             ORACLE will accept full  addendum  1  syntax,  but  won't

             enforce  anything  until  V6.1.   They've also added some

             more extensions to their SQL.





      o  New products



          -  CASE Tools



             In field test is CASE*Method (this is not a product,  but

             is  a  methodology  to  aid  in  development - consulting

             services),   CASE*Dictionary    (organizes    application


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             specifications, currently models Entity-Relationship) and

             CASE*Designer (edits the dictionary info into diagrams)



          -  Office Automation



             ORACLE for All-in-1 (in field test for  Europe),  it's  a

             gateway  between ORACLE and All-in-1.  ORACLE*Mail, which

             does less than VMS Mail, but is layered on  the  database

             rather  than  flat  files.   Also  ORACLE  for  1-2-3 and

             SQL*Reportwriter.





      o  Futures



         This will focus on Security, V6.1 and V7.0 planned features.



          -  Security



             ORACLE started a "Secure RDBMS"  project  3  months  ago,

             expect  it  to  be  complete  2�  years  from now.  It is

             partially  funded  by  an  unnamed  agency  of  the  U.S.

             Intelligence  Community.   First features will show up in

             V6.1 and will include:



              *  Group level access controls



              *  Roles



              *  Separate DBA duties



              *  discretionary "need to know" security



              *  Auditing of individuals



             They believe they will be at C2  with  V6.1.   V7.0  will

             have  B  level  security, they claim to involved with the

             NCSC  (National  Computer  Security  Committee)  on   the

             "trusted database interpretation".



          -  V6.1 Planned Features



             This release is  due  in  Mid-Calendar  year  1989.   The

             features  for V6.1 that I haven't already mentioned above

             are:



              *  User defined datatypes



              *  Stored query procedures



              *  DB2/ANSI switch for SQL


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              *  and performance.





          -  V7.0 Planned Features



              *  Rewrite of precompilers



              *  Object oriented, user extensibility database



              *  SQL2 Support



              *  Two-phase commit





          -  And some new utilities like a Scheduler and Calendar  for

             Office Automation and a Project Manager for CASE.





      o  Other notes



         In a session titled VMS Topics, it was stated  that  database

         market for mainframes is growing at 12%, minicomputers at 30%

         and micros at 28%.  ORACLE's largest  installed  base  is  on

         VAXen  at  28%  number of licenses, and 43% of ORACLE revenue

         comes from licenses sold to DEC hardware.



         The last session of the meeting was "Enhancements".   At  the

         beginning  of  the week a survey was handed out with features

         that should be  added,  users  voted  and  the  results  were

         announced here.  I will list them here in their general sense

         as to what users are most interested in.



         1.  Referential Integrity



         2.  Support (looking for better communication from ORACLE  to

             users)



         3.  More efficient backup and recovery



         4.  Better resource monitoring



         5.  Better Documentation



         6.  Dynamic Space  Management  (all  of  ORACLE's  files  are

             pre-allocated and can't dynamically grow).



         7.  Better  pricing  structure  (Users  want  PL/SQL  without

             paying the full price for TPS)



         8.  Better optimizer


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         9.  Windowing interface



        10.  Ability  to  override  optimizer  (ie  chose  the   index

             manually)





In conclusion, the meeting seemed more like a sales promotion  than  a

place for users to get together and discuss the product.  A portion of

what they talked about was "vaporware".  I  was  disappointed  by  the

lack  of  Question and Answer sessions (never got a good feeling as to

what customers thought of the product).  I did get some good technical

information  and  a  good  feeling  of  where  they are headed for the

future.



I have 25 pages of notes, if there are any  outstanding  questions  or

clarification please let me know and I will address them.