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Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

Title:DEC Rdb against the World
Moderator:HERON::GODFRIND
Created:Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
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154.0. "SUPRA" by OSKV01::KATOH (Hiromu Katoh/SWS/Osaka/Japan/) Wed Jun 29 1988 11:08

	Could someone provide me with information comparing thhe feature
    and performance of RDB vs. CINCOM's SUPRA database?
    My customer wants to use the database in an OLTP environment.
    So performance is the most important problem now.

    		- performance with medium database (300-400 Mbyte)

    		- functionality in a networked environment
    
Thanx,

				Hiromu
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154.1from the 3/6/89 Sales UpdateNUTMEG::SILVERBERGTue Mar 07 1989 16:47152
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CINCOM INTRODUCES SUPRA FOR VAX SYSTEMS, A RELATIONAL DBMS                      
                                                                                
                                                              Mike Runci        
                                                              DTN:  291-0420    
                                                              PDM1-2/E03        
                                                                                
    ===================================================================         
    |                                                                 |         
    |  o Cincom offers easy ULTRA-to-SUPRA migration that in many     |         
    |    cases can take as little as two hours to complete            |         
    |                                                                 |         
    |  o SUPRA has been designed for performance                      |         
    |                                                                 |         
    |  o Preliminary SUPRA performance tests on a VAX 6230 computer   |         
    |    show a 300% improvement over ULTRA V1.5                      |         
    |                                                                 |         
    |  o SUPRA offers complete compatibility between IBM and          |         
    |    Digital environments that run Cincom's DBMS                  |         
    |                                                                 |         
    ===================================================================         
                                                                                
Cincom Systems, Inc., a Digital CMP, now offers SUPRA for VAX systems, a        
relational database management system. SUPRA replaces Cincom's ULTRA            
relational DBMS for VAX systems.                                                
                                                                                
PRODUCT DESCRIPTION                                                             
                                                                                
SUPRA for VAX systems is an easy-to-use, flexible relational DBMS that          
provides the high performance required in production environments.              
                                                                                
To simplify migration, Cincom is offering a program so that current ULTRA       
users can move quickly to the more powerful SUPRA environment.  The improved    
design of SUPRA's Physical Data Manager (PDM) offers users improved             
performance.  Initial performance tests indicate that SUPRA on a VAX 6230       
computer is 300% more powerful than Cincom's ULTRA V1.5.  To document           
performance, Cincom plans a more comprehensive benchmark on several VAX         
configurations and will publish the results.                                    
                                                                                
Cincom, a Cincinnati-based firm, supplies application development software      
and manufacturing and financial applications for the VAX/VMS platform.          
SUPRA is fully compatible with Cincom's VAX/VMS product line, including:        
                                                                                
o  MANTIS, a fourth generation application development system;                  
                                                                                
o  CONTROL:Manufacturing, a comprehensive, integrated planning and control      
   system that supports discrete, repetitive and project-oriented               
   manufacturers; and                                                           
                                                                                
o  CONTROL:Financial, a financial management system that integrates fully       
   with CONTROL:Manufacturing and provides full support for manufacturers'      
   business and accounting functions.                                           
                                                                                
SUPRA for VAX systems is comprised of several components designed to provide    
a complete suite of functionality.  The Relational Data Manager (RDM) gives     
users a logical, relational view of data while the In-Line Directory            
provides a central repository for information that describes the                
organization's complete data base.                                              

                                                                                
A straightforward, advanced relational query system, SPECTRA enables end        
users to retrieve information without having to fall back on procedure-based    
methods.  The Physical Data Manager (PDM) manages the data structures of the    
physical files that store data.  To assist programmers and database             
administrators, special utilities make designing, testing and modifying data    
base systems easier.                                                            
                                                                                
SHARING VAX APPLICATIONS WITH IBM SYSTEM USERS                                  
                                                                                
SUPRA for Digital systems is fully compatible with SUPRA for IBM.  Under        
SUPRA, IBM and Digital system users can share applications.  In keeping with    
Cincom's philosophy, MANTIS, CONTROL:Manufacturing, and CONTROL:Financial       
are already portable and compatible across Digital and IBM environments.        
                                                                                
SELLING/MARKETING STRATEGY                                                      
                                                                                
Digital sales representatives can promote the Digital-IBM compatibility in      
the Cincom space.  Likely VAX prospects are Cincom/IBM customers who want       
distributed systems in their existing configuration, or are looking for         
alternative computing solutions.                                                
                                                                                
In some cases, Digital sales representatives have sold Digital systems to       
replace IBM installations that run Cincom software.                             
                                                                                
SUPRA ADVANTAGES                                                                
                                                                                
SUPRA users can integrate their existing VAX applications.  Any current         
applications or Digital Command Language procedures, for example, can run       
from within SPECTRA or MANTIS, giving users a seamless environment.             
                                                                                
Customers can protect their existing investment because SUPRA integrates        
with data stored in Digital RMS files.  The database navigation and data        
manipulation functions are fully automated so that end users can access         
information easily.                                                             
                                                                                
SUPRA provides better control by automating                                     
                                                                                
o  the management of data redundancies;                                         
                                                                                
o  the integration of existing data;                                            
                                                                                
o  the enforcement of business integrity rules; and the                         
                                                                                
o  optimization of data access.                                                 
                                                                                
In addition, SUPRA provides full recovery capabilities normally associated      
with production-oriented Database Management Systems.                           
                                                                                
VAXcluster SUPPORT                                                              
                                                                                
SUPRA provides VAXcluster support, including distributed data access and        
VAXcluster failover.  The relational DBMS takes full advantage of Digital's     
VAXcluster architecture and provides for systems growth and CPU failure.        
                                                                                
With an operator controlled "preferred machine list," SUPRA will allow          
automatic restarting of the DBMS and all applications on nodes pre-specified    
by the user or system manager.  In case of failure, operations will move to     
a machine that can handle the work load.                                        


                                                                                
To provide better VAXcluster services, Cincom re-wrote SUPRA's Physical Data    
Manager from scratch.  The result is a PDM that offers users very high          
performance, making the most of the VAX computer and VMS operating system.      
With the re-write, Cincom's PDM is multithreading and provides complete         
input/output overlap, driving the I/O subsystem to maximum capacity.            
                                                                                
THREE SCHEMA ARCHITECTURE                                                       
                                                                                
SUPRA is built on a unique Three Schema Architecture that meets ANSI            
standards.  The layered architecture defines an organization's data on three    
levels.                                                                         
                                                                                
The levels include an external, conceptual and internal schema.  The            
external schema defines how the users see data, independent of how or where     
the data is physically stored, while the conceptual schema defines the          
corporate model of the database.  The internal schema contains the physical     
data definitions in terms of data structures and access methods.                
                                                                                
Three schema architecture insulates each layer to free applications from        
their dependence on the physical and logical structures within the database.    
                                                                                
SUPRA OFFERS BETTER PERFORMANCE, INTEGRATED CAPABILITIES                        
                                                                                
In all, SUPRA for VAX systems can improve ULTRA users' performance and          
improve productivity.  SUPRA provides simple, easy access to information        
while maintaining data integrity.                                               
                                                                                
The Digital-IBM applications compatibility and transportability make SUPRA      
on VAX systems extremely attractive in today's mixed vendor environments.       
                                                                                
154.2Bull****COOKIE::BERENSONVAX Rdb/VMS VeteranTue Mar 07 1989 17:405
I would poersonally like to see the parties responsible for this article
fired.  Rather than pushing Supra as an aid to converting IBM customers
to DEC (the purpose of the CMP agreement), this article pushes Supra as
generally a great database system for DEC reps to sell.  I feel a memo
to senior VPs about DEC mis-marketing is about to roll off my fingers!
154.3sosLACV01::NEEDLEMANflagillate a deceased equine Wed Mar 08 1989 19:085
    They are NOT a CMP for my region. Readers remember, sales update
    is US only. Here is GIA, each region selects individual cmps.
    
    B