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Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

Title:DEC Rdb against the World
Moderator:HERON::GODFRIND
Created:Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1348
Total number of notes:5438

138.0. "Oracle & After Image Journalling" by TROU02::SPACKMAN () Thu May 19 1988 23:48

    I have heard & read that Oracle's implementation of After Image 
    Journalling does not work correctly in a VAXCluster.
    
    Could someone comment on what its actual behaviour is when one node
    dies? Does it depend on WHICH NODE dies, or are they all equal?
    And finally, how does all this apply to a LAVC or a new mixed-mode
    Cluster?
    
    We want to be sure that we are right to recommended staying away
    from a LAVC when Oracle is being used. This is not a new sales
    situation, so the decision to go Oracle was made some time ago.
    
    Thanks
    Janet
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138.1clustered block...HSK01::MANNISTOOlli Mannisto, SWAS/SW Technology, Digital FinlandTue May 24 1988 15:2420
    
    My current understanding is that Oracle does not support AI
    in (any) clusters. Oracle says that a future version will.
    
    In a cluster they draw the system saying that each node contains
    a kernel making it symmetrical. Oracle uses it own lock mechanisms.
    Don't know how it recovers. All nodes have BI journalling.
    
    A cluster is a cluster, independent on how it's composed. Because
    of performance reasons I'd personally would think twice before
    putting the db on a served disk. A local or a HSC disk is better.
    The shorter the trip between the kernel and the disk the better.
    
    You might use also SQL*NET in a cluster meaning that you pick
    up a (largest) node to work as a db server. The cluster itself
    would serve for system management purposes. Could provide some
    licence savings.
    
    
    -- Olli
138.2AIJ on Kernel Node onlyBIOMIC::BLOOMFIELDPen is Mightier than the Pencil!Wed May 25 1988 19:249
	I would go along with previous reply in that one approach is to use
SQL*NET on satelite nodes in a LAVC and restrict Oracle database activity to
the boot node which can then use AIJ (since there is no contention for the
database from any other nodes). The satelite nodes can process the SQL*FORMS
activity (from local disks if necessary) which, depending on the application,
may be significant. This method worked fine on a recent benchmark (see NOTE
137) but number of users was relatively low.

Peter