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| 109.1 | Did they ask the wrong vendor? | NOVA::CAMERON | | Fri Apr 01 1988 20:14 | 6 |
| This sounds like a question for their Ingres support people.
By the way, if they are a FT site for a future release of VMS, are
they allowed to tell people how well they work with it?
~/~
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| 109.2 | Yes but... | BRILLO::BIRCH | Peter Birch, DTN 842-3297 | Tue Apr 05 1988 16:18 | 12 |
| To some extent I agree. However, it's not INGRES which is changing,
but VMS, and therefore the customer sees it as DEC breaking RTI's
product, if indeed it does. He basically needs a warm blanket; I
can tell him that all user mode code works without change, performance
hits are neglible, and so on, but he still asks 'what does that
mean for ME?' Hence the question.
PDB
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| 109.3 | Ask RTI | BANZAI::BERENSON | Rdb/VMS - Number ONE on VAX | Tue Apr 05 1988 16:47 | 19 |
| Digital really can not know if VMS V5 breaks INGRES or not, since we
don't know enough about INGRES. If INGRES ran properly in an ASMP
environment (V3.x or V4.x of VMS on 782, 8350, 8800), contains no kernel
mode code (it probably doesn't), and contains no references to the VMS
Exec (which it might) then it should work on VMS V5.0 in an SMP
environment. Otherwise, RTI will have to issue a new release to support
V5.0 and SMP (as do a fair number of Digital layered products).
Only RTI can tell you if they have already tested INGRES with V5.0 (for
example, if one of the VMS V5.0 field test sites are INGRES users).
Otherwise, RTI will have to wait until V5.0 is available, and then make
sure it works on V5.0.
There are a number of things, such as kernel mode code, that make
software non-portable between versions of VMS. If a software vendor
uses these features, then they lag behind the availability of new
versions of the operating system. One of the benefits of an all-Digital
software solution is that the lag time is either non-existant or else
very very short (measured in weeks).
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| 109.4 | No, it does not run on VMS V5 | 50446::APPS | RDB-S-IGN, Ignore possible bugcheck messages | Wed Apr 06 1988 16:10 | 10 |
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The current version of INGRES (don't know the number) does NOT work on VMS V5.
I happen to know because an attempt was made to install INGRES on a V5 system
here in Germany. The installation 'broke' when one of the INGRES routines was
to be "$INSTALLed" with privs and protected.
(Sounds as if they have a small piece of privileged code running above user
mode.)
John
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