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Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

Title:	DEC Rdb against the World

Moderator:	HERON::GODFRIND

Created:	Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:	Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	1348
Total number of notes:	5438

94.0. "AS on IBM, help ????" by ERIC::SHIELDS () Wed Mar 16 1988 18:00

    I have a customer with ICL and IBM kit and they use AS on the
    IBM which seems to be some sort of Management Information product
    working on data from the IBM and the ICL. We have the chance to
    replace the IBM machine with DEC but need something to replace the
    AS software.
    
    Any information on AS would be appreciated - is it anything like
    TEAMDATA ??
    
    Thanks in advance.
    
    	Janet Shields

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
94.1	Exercise Caution	AUNTB::BOOTH	A career of MISunderstanding	`Fri Mar 18 1988 04:47`	15
	Be careful! AS is quite good. It will access flat files, VSAMs and DB2 files. The real killer is the AS graphics component. AS will do all sorts of graphics, based on GDDM of course. The graphics are scalable (sizing is optional), data labels can be moved around by the user. The graphs are close to high resolution-type graphics. They are very flexible, and quite simple for end-users to learn. For applications and reporting, AS is PFkey-driven, and again easy to use. Equalling AS will require a good end-user application development/report writer with a very good graphics package. Call me for suggestions. ---- Michael Booth (DTN:367-7033)
94.2		VNADC6::GEROLD	This note is rated 'PG-13'	`Fri Mar 18 1988 17:41`	6
	If I listen to the IBM customers performance must be worse than TEAMDATA. Regards, Gerold
94.3	More about AS	GUIDUK::KRUG		`Wed May 04 1988 00:12`	17
	1) Performance can be quite bad, when not using the SQL interface. Adding users also rapidly degrades performance. I recall that users were required to log on with a memory size of 4MB. 2) Access to DB2 databases is not locked as with TEAMDATA. Multiple concurrent users of the same DB2 data from AS can result in lost updates. 3) DB2 has a limit of 15 joins. Using a query from AS reduces this limit to 14. 4) The user interface and general facilities are quite good. It even includes a word processing facility (much like RUNOFF). Similar tools are available in the DEC environment, they just aren't integrated the way they are in AS. 5) IBM sells AS as a 4GL.