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Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

Title:	DEC Rdb against the World

Moderator:	HERON::GODFRIND

Created:	Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:	Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	1348
Total number of notes:	5438

71.0. "ORACLE User #'s on VAX 8300/8500's" by BMT::WELLIS () Fri Feb 12 1988 17:43

         Would anyone be able to offer number of users limits for
    ORACLE on VAX 8300 and 8500 machines? A summary of hardware
    configuration, number of users limits, and benchmark application 
    description (or rationale for calculations) would be very helpful.
    
	 Thanks.
    
    			Wm. Ellis

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
71.1	Here we go again ...	SRFSUP::MCCARTHY	Larry McCarthy, LAO	`Sat Feb 13 1988 19:14`	21
	re: 71.0, ORACLE User #'s on VAX 8300/8500's In my (very limited) experience, this is impossible to calculate without knowing what the application is doing, especially how complex the queries, views, updates, etc. are. I've seen a 780 that was able to support 25 users and an 8200 that couldn't adequately support 1 (one) user with ORACLE-based applications. If you're trying to sell ORACLE, then STOP WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND THINK AGAIN !!!! Once you've lost the database (repeat after me, choir) you've lost control of the account. If your customer likes ORACLE so much, tell your customer to get ORACLE to do this dirty work for them. This is the software equivalent of helping to size IBM hardware for your customer. If you're trying to beat ORACLE, then size the application using Rdb, and make ORACLE size their hardware platform. If theirs is smaller, make them benchmark it against Rdb. Regards, Larry.
71.2	ask ORACLE	MUNICH::EISELE	Member of DSA......	`Thu Mar 10 1988 18:55`	11
	reply .0) 1.) I agree with Larry .1) 2.) If you really have to deal with ORACLE, i.e. for political reasons, then ask ORCALE. R�diger
71.3		IND::WELLIS		`Wed Apr 06 1988 20:10`	17
	While I appreciate the attempt to enlighten me and, indeed, any attempt to help, I would like to clarify a few things: 1) It wasn't my intent to ask for some table of machine vs. user load for Oracle. I was trying to ask for literature - "hardware configuration, benchmark application description ... or rationale for calculations". Serious benchmarks are always performed for some small subset of the infinite number of applications and configurations that might exist, yet it trivializes the subject to say that no reasonable generalizations can be drawn since every application has its own qualities. 2) I discuss the subject of selling a competitor's product in Note 102.14.