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Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

Title:DEC Rdb against the World
Moderator:HERON::GODFRIND
Created:Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1348
Total number of notes:5438

48.0. "How to fight ADABAS???" by ZPOV01::JEFFREYCHOY (the forgotten man) Fri Nov 27 1987 09:11

    In my part of the world, ADABAS and ORACLE sells like hot cakes.
    There is no single RDB/RALLY site in my country at all and this
    is extremely tough for our sales colleague to propose our RDB/RALLY
    against the more popular ADABAS/NATURAL and ORACLE.
    
    In the past our RDB could not measure up to these products but as
    I have understood from recent sales update, RDB's performance
    has improved drastically and with our powerful 4GL, I believe it
    is time to launch an aggresive promotion of our own products.
    
    To begin with, it is necessary for me to convince our sales colleagues
    that we have a superior product set. To do this I need competitive
    info on how to fight ADABAS/NATURAL. 
                                                     
    Any contribution for is most appreciated.
                         
    Thanks
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48.1VNASWS::GEROLDOne life down, eight to goMon Nov 30 1987 10:1421
Each of my items I list below is AS HEARD from a ADABASE representative
a year ago AND NON-COMMITAL in every imaginable sense.

1)ADABASE sees a cluster as a network and not as a cluster with all 
  the problems, which belonges to that e.g. AI-Journalling, deadlocks etc.

2)It uses inverted lists and a relational-like interface.You have to allocate
  enough space for the lists and the metadata. Dynamic expansion above the
  allocated space is not possible, you have to UNLOAD/RELOAD.

3)Their performance is better because in their benchmarks use their equivalents
  of DBKEYS. I'm sure in V3.0 of RDB we will outperform them.

I'll think of more.

To be fair I must say that ADABASE is a good product and very useful in mixed
hardware environments.

Hope that confuses,

Gerold
48.24GL Competition analysisSNO78C::BRADLEYG'day - Mark.Tue Dec 01 1987 06:465
I have a report that compares our product to the competetion.
If you would like a copy please let me know.


Mark.
48.3appreciationZPOV01::JEFFREYCHOYthe forgotten manWed Dec 02 1987 03:106
    With all those support that I got, I am now ready to meet the ADABAS
    CHALLENGE.  Thank you very much for all those contributions.(especially
    to MIKE BOOTH who send me a long, informative but frank opinion
    on the topic.). Thanks to MARK BRADLEY for his consultant's report.