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Conference ulysse::rdb_vms_competition

Title:DEC Rdb against the World
Moderator:HERON::GODFRIND
Created:Fri Jun 12 1987
Last Modified:Thu Feb 23 1995
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1348
Total number of notes:5438

29.0. "Why not RDB?" by INFACT::NORTHERN (Look quick, it won't last!!!) Fri Sep 11 1987 18:16

    What is going on?
    
    Don't we believe in our own products?
    
    Why on earth is there a 1032 notes conference out there, and why as we
    INTERNALLY using 1032 as opposed to our own products?
    
    (for anyone unaware 1032 is yet another relational product from
    a competitive vendor)
    
    Can anyone give me further clues to the what and why of things?

    
    		Lou "Griping yet again" Northern
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29.1I believe!!BANZAI::KELLEYConfused, I am so....Fri Sep 11 1987 21:2315
    
    I imagine the reason we have a System 1032 notes conference is because
    DIS (Digital's IS group) is using that product for their applications.
    Therefore there needs to be a discussion on the best way to use
    that product.
    
    As for why they are using 1032 as opposed to our own products, the
    claim is that our products do not do the type of work that is needed
    for their applications within a reasonable time frame (performance)
    and that 1032 does.  Just like any other customer, we need to show
    them that DIGITAL products are as functional as others and that
    we can produce the performance needed for their applications.
    
    
    chuck
29.2history and realityNOVA::BERENSONRdb/VMS - Number ONE on VAXSun Sep 13 1987 20:5212
Years ago DIS used 1022 on DECsystem-10/20s for much of the inquiry-only
work.  As they have moved to VAXen, they have also stayed with the VAX
equivalent of 1022, 1032.  They are also using FOCUS and GENisys (an
internal tool) to handle many of these inquiry-only applications.

It turns out that these tools are heavily optimized for the inquiry-only
environment.  In other words, they can't handle simultaneous update.
However, the DIS vision is of information centers where the only updates
are made in batch at night.  At the moment, products like 1032 handle
this environment rather well.  We are working to make sure that Rdb/VMS
handles them as well (or better) in the future. 

29.3Comparison 1032 <-> RDB neededMGOI03::KERNOra et laboraThu Jul 21 1988 14:0113
    I have a coustomer who currently uses 1022 on a 2060. In a year 
    or so he is going to change to VAX. He is in the information process
    of converting to 1032.
    
    Question: 
    1. Does a comparison exist between  (new) RDB an 1032 so
    that we can discuss strength of our product against 1032.
    
    2. Are there any convertion tools available for converting
    1022 data on a 2060 to RDB on VAX?
    
    Wilfried
    
29.4HELP!MGOI01::KERNFuture starts nowThu Jul 28 1988 13:462
    Really nobody out there who knows 1022???
                 
29.5Center for Migration Services does!TYFYS::DAVIDSONTue Aug 09 1988 00:086
    Contact the CENTER FOR MIGRATION SERVICES.
    DTN 522-4448
    TYFYS::HOTLINE

    1022/1032 conversion experience available.