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Conference vaxuum::online_bookbuilding

Title:	Online Bookbuilding
Notice:	This conference is write-locked: see note 1.3.
Moderator:	VAXUUM::UTT

Created:	Fri Aug 12 1988
Last Modified:	Mon Jul 15 1991
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	440
Total number of notes:	2134

388.0. "An Experiment: Cross-reference to title page" by DECWET::SHUSTER (Write left) Fri Nov 30 1990 18:58

    Is there any way to cross-reference the title page?  I've tried a
    number of unsuccessful methods, including the use of a header tag after
    <title_page>, which gives me a BOOKWRITER ERROR:
    
    BOOKWRITER ERROR--The following symbols are undefined:
            pgid =   6, offset =    189, symbol = 'MAIN_MENU'
    
    
    From the symbol, you might guess what I'm trying to do: put a menu in
    the title page.  That's the easy part.  What I want to do is let users
    go back to that menu (i.e. the title page).  And that's what I can't
    do, using any of the cross-reference methods.  I was wondering if I
    could "fool" Bookwriter somehow?  
    
    
    If the above is not possible, then is it possible to have Bookreader
    first display a page other than the title page without screwing up page
    coordination?
    
    -Rob

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388.1 no and yes... OLD::UTT Mary Utt Mon Dec 03 1990 07:43 36

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388.1	no and yes...	OLD::UTT	Mary Utt	`Mon Dec 03 1990 07:43`	36
	You are using V1.2B, right? In that version (and all previous versions) of DOCUMENT, the <headn> tags are redefined in the front matter so that no section numbers and no TOC entries are issued. You can supply a symbol argument but nothing is done with it (it is not entered in the tag translator's symbol table). Therefore, a <reference> to it will cause a failure in Bookreader device conversion. (See also Note 386.2.) So, for V1.2B, the answer is no, you cannot cross reference the title page. I just tried what you are trying on T2.0, with more success. You don't want to use a <head1> tag (I don't think) because the default is for <head1> tags to start a new topic. So you have to press More or Previous to see the header after the title page. But the <reference> from somewhere later in the text works fine. I tried a <subhead1> tag and discovered to my horror that that tag continues to be redefined for the title page, so it doesn't work at all. We will look into this, but the fix will not be in V2.0 (too late). I tried a <head2> tag (which does not start a new topic) and the results were what I think you are looking for. The header text followed the title and could be referred to from elsewhere in the text. Since header numbers are turned off for the front matter, it looks fine. However, it will probably be necessary to enforce strict heirarchies of headers for the V3 Bookreader (because of its use of the SVN widget in the TOC and index): see note 382 and replies. This means you will not be allowed to specify a <head2> unless it is preceded by a <head1>. So, <head2> is probably not a good choice. However, <head> works fine and shouldn't run afoul of the header heirarchy. Thanks. Mary

    You are using V1.2B, right? In that version (and all previous versions)
    of DOCUMENT, the <headn> tags are redefined in the front matter so that
    no section numbers and no TOC entries are issued. You can supply a
    symbol argument but nothing is done with it (it is not entered in the
    tag translator's symbol table). Therefore, a <reference> to it will
    cause a failure in Bookreader device conversion. (See also Note 386.2.)
    So, for V1.2B, the answer is no, you cannot cross reference the title
    page.
    
    I just tried what you are trying on T2.0, with more success. You don't
    want to use a <head1> tag (I don't think) because the default is for
    <head1> tags to start a new topic. So you have to press More or
    Previous to see the header after the title page. But the <reference>
    from somewhere later in the text works fine.
    
    I tried a <subhead1> tag and discovered to my horror that that tag
    continues to be redefined for the title page, so it doesn't work at
    all. We will look into this, but the fix will not be in V2.0 (too
    late).
    
    I tried a <head2> tag (which does not start a new topic) and the
    results were what I think you are looking for. The header text
    followed the title and could be referred to from elsewhere in the
    text. Since header numbers are turned off for the front matter, it
    looks fine.
    
    However, it will probably be necessary to enforce strict heirarchies of
    headers for the V3 Bookreader (because of its use of the SVN widget in
    the TOC and index): see note 382 and replies. This means you will not
    be allowed to specify a <head2> unless it is preceded by a <head1>. So,
    <head2> is probably not a good choice. However, <head> works
    fine and shouldn't run afoul of the header heirarchy.
    
    Thanks. 
    
    Mary