T.R | Title | User | Personal Name | Date | Lines |
---|
315.1 | Use <ONLINE_POPUP>, but.... | STAR::HOLOHAN | | Thu Apr 19 1990 13:20 | 18 |
| I enclose the callout list between <ONLINE_POPUP> and <ENDONLINE_POPUP>
tags. This creates a hotspot for the callout list.
However, as a wishlist item, I'd love to see this changed. It really
doesn't work that well. If an example reference occurs in the first
sentence of a long-ish paragraph, the reader doesn't see the callout
hotspot until he/she scrolls past the end of the paragraph. Any kind
of remote reference to the example provides no clue that there is a
way to access callouts.
My suggestion: There should be a "Callouts" button next to the
"Close Topic" button at the bottom of the window
that contains the example. This way the callouts
are always accessible from the example and there
is no need to insert the awkward callout hotspot
in a document.
john
|
315.2 | already on the wishlist | RAGMOP::UTT | | Thu Apr 19 1990 14:12 | 6 |
| It's already a wishlist item to make callouts hot; that is, you click
on the number in the example and the callout text pops up.
Thanks,
Mary
|
315.3 | ONLINE_POPUP for Callout List Only Solution? | STAR::BSEGAL | | Thu May 24 1990 10:48 | 14 |
| So, for now, the only way to make the callout list available
online while the user is viewing a formal figure or
example containing callouts is to code the callout list with the
online_popup tag and rely on the user to drag one of the screens
to the side so he/she can view both the formal figure and the
callout list at the same time?
I know callout hotspots are on the wishlist, so this is not a
criticism. I just want to know if this the best solution right
now as I code my files.
Thanks.
- Bob
|
315.4 | The user can move the figure | DOCTP::FARINA | | Thu May 24 1990 11:49 | 13 |
| Bob, that is certainly a solution. When reading a figure or example
with call-outs, I usually just move the figure or example over beside
the text, leaving them side-by-side. Sometimes this doesn't work out,
as when the figure or example is extremely large.
While this is certainly not convenient, I imagine it's what customers
do. With the online_popup, won't the callouts pop up on top to the
figure, possible requiring the user to move two windows (the
figure/example and the callouts)? I haven't used this tag, yet; this
is a serious question.
Susan
|
315.5 | Use POPUP if Callout List is Multiscreen? | STAR::BSEGAL | | Thu May 24 1990 13:39 | 34 |
| RE: 4
Good point actually. In theory, I don't have to use ONLINE_POPUP for the
callout list, but instead can simply click on the figure and move that
window to the side next to the remaining text that has the
callout list, as you suggested. I'll do that in other cases and not
use a popup window.
In fact, I was just about to leave it at that when I noticed that in this
*particular* case, the callout list breaks across two screens in that main
topic window, so that I can't display the complete list on one screen.
I have to click on MORE to see the second half of the list.
If the list were shorter or if the preceding text and list broke
differently, it would work. In this case, however, it works out better to
code the list with ONLINE_POPUP because I get the entire list in that one
popup window. The only drawback, as you say, is that you have to move two
windows (in addition to the main topic window) around instead one,
the figure and the popup. But that's probably better than not being able to
display the complete callout list on one screen next to the screen
with the figure.
So I guess for now the popup window is the option if the callout list
(and other explanatory text you may want to include with it to help
interpret the figure) goes on for more than one screen in that
main topic window. If it that info is confined to one screen, then I
guess you don't really need to create another window with a separate
popup.
I'm a little new at this, so this is probably no great discovery, but
it's worth noting I guess.
- Bob
- Bob
|
315.6 | why not include in figure? | AISG::WARNER | It's only work if they make you do it | Thu May 24 1990 14:34 | 19 |
| Assuming the callouts text is not terribly long, why can't you just include the
text as part of the formal figure, at the bottom? You should be able to do this
using RAGS.
_________________________
| |
1 ________|_____ |
| ____|_____ 3
2 _____|___ |
| __|__________ 4
__________________________
1 xxx xx xxxx 3 xx xxx xxxxx
xxx xxx xxxx xxxx xxx
2 xx xxx xxxx 4 x xxx xxxx
xxxxx
?
|
315.7 | Pointer to prototype that uses graphic hotspots | EPIK::DONOHUE | | Tue Oct 30 1990 09:25 | 12 |
| See the following notesfiles for my announcements of Proto-1: a
DECwrite Bookreader prototype that uses DECwrite to hotspot callouts on
a scanned image. The callouts are part of the image.
QUEEN::DECWRITE
BULOVA::BOOKREADER
MIDI::ON_HELP
The note following the one described tells how I created the graphic
hotspots.
Jack Donohue
|