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Conference vaxuum::online_bookbuilding

Title:Online Bookbuilding
Notice:This conference is write-locked: see note 1.3.
Moderator:VAXUUM::UTT
Created:Fri Aug 12 1988
Last Modified:Mon Jul 15 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:440
Total number of notes:2134

275.0. "How tables break online" by DECWET::OSHEA (Kate O'Shea) Tue Feb 06 1990 16:14

    Hi -
    
    One thing that's been bugging me is that popup tables longer than a 
    windowful break according to (I'm guessing) hardcopy page-size, not 
    according to window-size.  So a new table title line appears in the
    middle of the screen, and the table continues.
    
    I thought I had found a way out of this by including
    <TABLE_ATTRIBUTES>(keep), which does, in fact, work in many cases.
    
    But I have come across one longish, formal table that produced an
    "exceeded memory capacity" error with the <TABLE_ATTRIBUTES>(keep) tag. 
    When I deleted the <TABLE_ATTRIBUTES>(keep), my document compiled fine. 
    But then, of course, the table paging (or should I say windowing?)
    online looked awful.
    
    Is there another fix I should be using besides
    <TABLE_ATTRIBUTES>(keep)?
    
    [By the way, I generally conditionalize the <TABLE_ATTRIBUTES>(keep)
    for online so that it doesn't apply to the hardcopy version.]
    
    Thanks,
    
    Kate
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275.1TPDOC::FARINAWed Feb 07 1990 13:535
    Kate, this is something that's been bothering me, too.  It really looks
    awful.  Does anybody have anything for us?
    
    
    Susan
275.2why paginate tablesRAGMOP::UTTThu Feb 08 1990 13:2022
    Kate,
    
    Yes, you're right. Formal tables *are* paginated much like hardcopy
    tables. They *do* have to be paginated or we'd get tex-out-of-memory
    errors all over the place. I could have suppressed the repeating
    headers, but after much discussion among the development team and
    local writers, we decided to leave them in. In a very long table,
    the column heads will scroll off the window, which could make the
    table very hard to read. If the heads repeat, you never have to scroll
    back very far, if at all, to get a reminder about what data is in
    which column. I think the ideal solution would be to have a stationary
    column heading window at the top of the popup and for the table data
    to scroll beneath it. This, however, would require Bookreader
    functionality and other things are higher on the list at the moment.
    (Note that the functionality could get somewhat complex to accommodate
    table units and so on in very complicated tables.) So, a better
    solution for tables is on the list but it's not very high on the list
    at the moment.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Mary
275.3DECWET::OSHEAKate O&#039;SheaThu Feb 08 1990 13:3610
    Thanks for the explanation, Mary.  I agree with you completely that 
    having the table heads repeated is helpful.  I just wish they'd appear 
    at the top of each successive window instead of somewhere randomly in 
    the middle.  [I like your idea about a stationary heads bar at the top
    and the table scrolling by underneath.]
    
    I'll wait and hope for better table functionality as time goes on. 
    :-)
    
    Kate
275.4<ONLINE_CHUNK> might help???ATSE::KNIGHTFred KnightMon Feb 12 1990 17:259
  I have found an interesting fact with informal tables.  The <ONLINE_CHUNK>
  tag causes the table headers to be repeated.  It was said that this tag
  had no visible effect, but I can see that it in fact does have a visible
  effect.  I don't know however what the impact is in formal tables.  You might
  give it a try, and see if it provides you with control over where the headers
  show up.

	Fred Knight
275.5No, don't try itCLOSET::UTTMon Feb 12 1990 18:035
    The tag does not work in formal tables, and I believe the documentation
    says not to use <online_chunk> in formal elements. (If it doesn't, it
    should! :-)
    
    Mary