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191.1 | | CLOSET::UTT | | Tue Sep 05 1989 18:33 | 40 |
| Ward-
The hardcopy doctypes don't know about the BOOKREADER destination.
You need to include a symbols file so that your hardcopy processing
will work: doc$local_formats:cup$online_defs.gdx. It's installed
in doc$local_formats when you restore the online saveset. This
is documented in the first section of _Coding Documentation Source
Files_. (I'm at home and don't have a copy, so I can't quote chapter
and verse.)
I've tried to put all the gotchas in this document. As I learn about
them, I document them (or fix them). Much of what's in that document
is there because of user feedback, so please don't pull back from
online bookbuilding because of possible gotchas: we need the input.
Comments on deficiencies in the document are also welcome.
Estimate of the practicality of maintaining single source files? That
depends on your document and what you want/need (how important is it to
generate *both* online and hardcopy -- if all your readers have
workstations, do you really need hardcopy? and so forth.) I would say
that if your document consists mainly of very large, very complex
tables, generating acceptable output for *both* online and hardcopy
will be difficult. (Other notes in this conference discuss the
difficulties that tables present.) On the other hand, the near
impossibility of maintaining parallel source files for different
outputs means that it's almost always more practical to maintain
single source files. All of which boils down to: I dunno, try it
and see what happens...
One thing to note is that the REPORT doctype is not supported for
online and you may have some problems with tags that are only
recognized for that doctype. (I did implement a few of the REPORT
tags at someone's request a while back so they won't all be
unrecognized, but you'll find out from the tag translator pretty
fast...) In that case, you might try conditionalizing the front
matter, one condition for online and one for hardcopy.
Good luck,
Mary
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191.2 | Thanks for the encouragement | CASEE::CLARK | Ward Clark | Wed Sep 06 1989 14:58 | 39 |
| .1> You need to include a symbols file so that your hardcopy processing
.1> will work: doc$local_formats:cup$online_defs.gdx. ... This is
.1> documented in the first section of _Coding Documentation Source Files_.
.1> (I'm at home and don't have a copy, so I can't quote chapter and
.1> verse.)
It's "Known problem #6" on page xi. I found that by visual scanning;
the TOC and Index didn't help (hint, hint).
Unfortunately, several of our documents are already using /SYMBOLS for
some home-grown tags. Yeah, I know we can graft the files together.
Oh goody, another task for our trusty MMS document building procedures!
.1> please don't pull back from online bookbuilding because of possible
.1> gotchas: we need the input.
That's just the kind of encouragement I was looking for. Richard-the-
writer and I will give it a shot.
.1> how important is it to generate *both* online and hardcopy -- if
.1> all your readers have workstations, do you really need hardcopy?
.1> and so forth.
I know some of our valued MEMEX reviewers don't have workstations.
My personal feeling is that on-line is great for reference, but for
beginning-to-end reading/reviewing a paper copy is more friendly,
especially when I want to make red marks.
Also, I wouldn't want to curl up in bed with a good workstation. :-}
.1> you might try conditionalizing the front matter, one condition for
.1> online and one for hardcopy.
I was already thinking of that.
Watch this space for news of our REPORTing via the Bookreader success.
-- Ward
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191.3 | REPORTing Bookreader success | CASEE::THOMSON | Richard Thomson | Wed Sep 13 1989 08:52 | 31 |
| Well, as predicted, doc$local_formats:cup$online_defs.gdx did the
trick. Nearly. We have a successful build, but the ONLINE.HAND version
complains:
[ T a g T r a n s l a t i o n ]...
%TAG-I-DEFSLOADD, End of Loading of Tag Definitions
%TAG-I-LCL_MSG01, Using online bookbuilding tools, 2-August-1989 baselevel
%TAG-W-TAGNOTPRE, at tag <RUNNING_TITLE> on line 174 in file
DISK_AIM_USER:[THOMSON.MEMEX.DOC_DEV]HYPERVIEW_V1_USER_INTERFACE.SDML;
Tag <RUNNING_TITLE> invalid unless preceded by TEMPLATE_SECTION_ATTRIBUTES
%TAG-W-TAGNOTPRE, at tag <RUNNING_FEET> on line 179 in file
DISK_AIM_USER:[THOMSON.MEMEX.DOC_DEV]HYPERVIEW_V1_USER_INTERFACE.SDML;
Tag <RUNNING_FEET> invalid unless preceded by TEMPLATE_SECTION_ATTRIBUTES
%TAG-W-TAGNOTPRE, at tag <RUNNING_FEET> on line 271 in file
DISK_AIM_USER:[THOMSON.MEMEX.DOC_DEV]HYPERVIEW_V1_USER_INTERFACE.SDML;
Tag <RUNNING_FEET> invalid unless preceded by TEMPLATE_SECTION_ATTRIBUTES
%TAG-W-TAGNOTPRE, at tag <RUNNING_FEET> on line 861 in file
DISK_AIM_USER:[THOMSON.MEMEX.DOC_DEV]HYPERVIEW_V1_USER_INTERFACE.SDML;
Tag <RUNNING_FEET> invalid unless preceded by TEMPLATE_SECTION_ATTRIBUTES
[and so on...]
I cannot find TEMPLATE_SECTION_ATTRIBUTES mentioned anywhere else
(online or hardcopy), so I'm not sure what I'm supposed to do to fix
this. The book builds ok, although there are no headers or footers. So
far, I cannot detect any other problems with the build. Certainly,
ONLINE-CLEANUP didn't find anything to complain about. Any ideas?
Regards
Richard-the-writer
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191.4 | Hello! Is anybody there? Please? | CASEE::THOMSON | Richard Thomson | Mon Sep 18 1989 04:19 | 0 |
191.5 | I'll check this out as soon as I can... | NAVIGO::GRANT | I've saved $2119.00 since I quit smoking. | Mon Sep 18 1989 09:23 | 0
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