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Conference vaxuum::online_bookbuilding

Title:Online Bookbuilding
Notice:This conference is write-locked: see note 1.3.
Moderator:VAXUUM::UTT
Created:Fri Aug 12 1988
Last Modified:Mon Jul 15 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:440
Total number of notes:2134

120.0. "<print_date> doesn't show on copyright page" by AITG::WARNER (Ross Warner) Mon May 01 1989 11:07

I see that with the ONLINE.REFERENCE doctype, the print date gets hidden above 
the top margin when the page is a little too long. Apparently it's only a line 
or two too long, and isn't "triggering" the scrolling feature. I have four files,
and the print date shows completely only in the one that has no ML-XXXXX at the
bottom (the release notes), and which is therefore a little shorter. In one of
the files, you can see a litle bit of the date that wasn't chopped off.

Also, I notice that I get the date, then a horizontal line, then "The 
information in this document..."

In the printed version, there's no line between the print date and text.

I coded as follows:

<copyright_page>
<print_date>(July 1989)
<set_trademark_table>(V_DECISION_LIST)
<copyright_date>(1989)
T.RTitleUserPersonal
Name		DateLines
120.1(controlled) solves this problem but adds anotherAITG::WARNERRoss WarnerMon May 01 1989 17:214
    When I add the tag <copyright_page_formatting>(controlled) after
    <copyright_page>, the date comes out OK but I lose my trademark table
    (none appears). I'm using Document 1.1 and the March 20 online
    bookbuilding tools, online.reference doctype.
120.2VAXUUM::UTTWed May 03 1989 11:028
    The copyright page is formatted differently from other 'pages' and this
    is causing the problem. When 'too much' text is on the copyright page
    it goes off the screen and you can't get at it. The whole area of
    copyright page information and formatting needs to be revisited.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Mary
120.3What's the solution?BOOKIE::L_FIELDMon May 08 1989 17:506
    RE .2 - How much is "too much"? We have customized trademark tables
    and lots of specific information that must be on our DECwrite copyright
    page. We'll have to solve this problem before we can put these books
    online.
    
    Liz
120.4XUI Style Guide copyright page OK!AITG::WARNERRoss WarnerFri May 12 1989 10:096
I see that the copyright page for the XUI Style Guide (DECwindows Programmer 
Documentation Shelf) is long, but the scroll bar works and the date is visible 
at the top of the window.

Does anyone know how they did it? Is this a feature that went away with later
versions? The copyright date is December 1988.
120.5VAXUUM::UTTSat May 13 1989 17:037
    Hmmm, I don't know why that worked in the XUI Style Guide. In any case,
    we're looking at the problem right now and hope to have better (and
    scrollable) copyright pages quite soon.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Mary
120.6seems to workBOOKIE::L_FIELDLiz Field ZKO2-2/M21 381-0691Mon May 15 1989 11:165
    We just built our first DECwrite book and the copyright page shows
    the date just fine. You have to scroll through to see the end of
    the page.
    
    Liz
120.7problem NOT resolved...AITG::WARNERRoss WarnerTue Jun 06 1989 10:494
    This is still unresolved. I get the same problem reported in .0 when I
    use either V1.1 or T1.2 to process, using ONLINE.REFERENCE.
    
    What did you (Liz Field) use to get your "good version?"
120.8VAXUUM::UTTWed Jun 07 1989 09:047
    I hope to have new, improved copyright page stuff in the next baselevel
    (no guarantees, tho; copyright pages turn out to be a real rat's nest).
    For testing purposes, would you send me your copyright page coding?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Mary
120.9AITG::ISENJoyce, 291-8230 DLB5-2Thu Jun 08 1989 10:223
    I just recognized that I have this problem, too (using T1.2).  In my
    case, three lines of print date and revision history are out of reach
    at the top of the copyright page.
120.10order of tags importantBOOKIE::L_FIELDLiz Field ZKO2-2/M21 381-0691Mon Jun 19 1989 09:4021
    RE: .7 This is the general template we used:


<copyright_page>


<COPYRIGHT_PAGE_FORMATTING>(CONTROLLED)
<PRINT_DATE>(July 1989)
<copyright_date>(1989)
<p>
The following are trademarks of Digital Equipment Corporation:
.
.
.

<ENDCOPYRIGHT_PAGE>

I think the key is that the date tags must come *after* the formatting
controlled tag.
    
    Liz