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67.1 | Should we move Updates into this brave new world? | DONVAN::TRAMONTOZZI | | Thu Jan 26 1989 16:51 | 13 |
| I would discourage the use of updates. Reason - the OLD cdrom
will ship every two months. What that means is that doc groups
have a timely release vehicle. One of the selling points of
this kind of release vehicle is that we can now provide the latest
and most uptodate documentation.
Why do we send out updates? To save on printing costs. Since printing
cost isn't something we need to consider w/cdrom it doesn't make
sense to send out updates. That's the direction we should follow.
However, printing isn't the only cost involved - there are also
writing resource sources issues. And, ususally when time is short
you might write an update. I don't think we should carry that
model into OLD, but if you do the next note from Mary Utt explains
what the DOCUMENT software does.
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67.2 | revision vs update | DONVAN::TRAMONTOZZI | | Thu Jan 26 1989 16:54 | 31 |
| From: CLOSET::UTT "Mary Utt" 25-JAN-1989 08:53
To: VMSDEV::WEISENFELD
CC: DONNA_T
Subj: RE: My two cents worth...
Re: change bars for ONLINE doctype.
Change bars work for the ONLINE doctype. So, if a writer is doing
a revision of a manual and uses the <REVISION>, <MARK>, and <ENDMARK>
tags in the source file, the output will contain change bars, just
as for hardcopy. Exactly the same coding produces exactly the same
output.
However, if a writer is doing a UPDATE for hardcopy, but we only do
revisions for online, the the writer will need to re-code the SDML
files. Updates use the <REVISION>(UPDATE\[optional-arg]), <UPDATE_RANGE>,
and <ENDUPDATE_RANGE> tags. That file will need to be converted to
<REVISION>, <MARK>, <ENDMARK> for online.
IF update ranges contain **only** new material, I could define
disable the UPDATE processing and redefine <UPDATE_RANGE>/<ENDUPDATE_RANGE>
to equate to <MARK>/<ENDMARK>. But I don't believe that is the case.
It's been millenia since I did an update but I believe that update
pages contain both old and updated information, so merely putting change
bars thoughout an update range would be inaccurate. The files would need
to be recoded.
Does this help?
Mary
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67.3 | To update or not to update... | LEZAH::SMASELLA | | Mon Jan 30 1989 12:01 | 19 |
| Another reason for doing hardcopy updates is to save the customer
from having to pay for a entire book when only five or ten pages
have changed. Also, some customers have stated that they write
notes in the margins and prefer to replace pages to their existing
manual.
I agree that putting update pages on the CDROM doesn't make sense,
but marking changebars on a so called revision might be something
to consider. A problem can arise, however, when the hardcopy is
updated with point pages, but the manual on CDROM is repaginated
without point pages.
I need a decision, from on high, on process. The books on my project
are in the process of being "updated". The software is destined
for the CDROM. I can process the books with the <revision> tag
and have changebars for the online version, but the hardcopy will
be update pages. I can wait until another version of the software
requires a revision to the manuals. I'd prefer to wait. Do I have
that option?
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67.4 | | LEZAH::SMASELLA | | Mon Jan 30 1989 12:03 | 3 |
| This is very useful information.
Thanks, Sarah
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67.5 | | CURIE::HARTSHORN | | Mon Jan 30 1989 16:44 | 6 |
| RE: .3
There are no page numbers on pages produced online, therefore page numbers
(point or otherwise) in hardcopy have no effect on the online copy.
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67.6 | | LEZAH::SMASELLA | | Tue Jan 31 1989 08:10 | 1 |
| That's a good point. That makes life a little simpler.
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67.7 | | DONVAN::TRAMONTOZZI | | Wed Feb 15 1989 13:24 | 17 |
| So, do you know what to do?
A few things are very clear:
1.The information on the CDROM should reflect the information
that exists in the hardcopy. If that means that what's on the
CDROm is a manual + release notes or a manual + separate update
manual, that's a messy solution, but it meets the requirements of
the first sentence. A much better solution is to have a a revision
of the manual in both hardcopy and online, but as pointed out in
the previous notes we can't always do the best thing.
2.How do changebars look on the screen? I haven;t seen any, but
I suspect that they may look terrible. Of course the changebars
tags could be in the source file and they could be visible in hardcopy
but not in online.
DOes this make things more confusing?
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67.8 | What about future plans? | CADSYS::PSMITH | Pamela Smith, HLO2-2/B11 | Thu Mar 23 1989 16:07 | 16 |
| One thought that occurred to me relates to the comment about customers
preferring change pages that they can insert into already marked-up
copies of a paper manual.
I'm not that familiar with the BOOKREADER yet, but from wishlist items
it appears that it doesn't yet have capabilities to "bookmark" pages or
make notations. Completely replacing a book instead of doing change
pages is probably the best method now.
But what about the future? What if we add the ability to make page
margin comments online? What provisions would we need to make to
preserve annotations made by the reader, instead of doing an automatic
reinstall that blows away their old version?
Another question: should we cross that bridge when we come to it, or
is it worthwhile to plan now? (!)
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67.9 | | CLOSET::UTT | | Thu Mar 23 1989 16:46 | 6 |
| Bookmarks are high on the list of Bookreader futures.
As for annotations and preserving them across versions, we recognize
the requirement for this functionality and believe that MEMEX hypertext
services will allow us to provide it. This will be investigated
for a future release.
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