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Name | Date | Lines |
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| 175.1 | | NITTY::DIERCKS | I just am, that's why!!! | Mon Jul 11 1994 10:31 | 5 |
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Will the first 9 chapters of VMS for programmers be changing?
GJD
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| 175.2 | How about the lab exercises??? | TEACH::MARYJO | Maryjo Bader/341-6327/DCO-239 | Thu Jul 14 1994 09:03 | 4 |
| Could you please post a pointer to the lab exercises for these updated
VMS courses? Some of them go live with courses on 7/25 and the
instructors want to see the lab guides as well. This is pretty urgent.
THanks!
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| 175.3 | Pointer to Exercises | SUPER::ROUNDS | Kristin Rounds | Thu Jul 14 1994 14:35 | 15 |
| RE: .1
VMS for Programmers was not updated as part of this project.
RE: .2
I've posted the exercise booklets in the following directory:
SUPER::IDC$REVIEW:[V61_CURRICULUM_UPDATE]
EY-N448E-EX-0002.PS 486 blocks (SysNet I)
EY-N449E-EX-0002.PS 466 (SysNet II)
EY-N450E-EX-0002.PS 445 (SysNet II)
EY-Q153E-EX-0002.PS 581 (User)
EY-Q163E-EX-0002.PS 242 (Operator)
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| 175.4 | How about the new Cluster course?? | TEACH::MARYJO | Maryjo Bader/341-6327/DCO-239 | Mon Jul 18 1994 10:34 | 3 |
| Is there a pointer to the new instructor guide and lab exercises for
the new Cluster course (Q154) yet?
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| 175.5 | 167.8 & 167.9 | WAGGIS::FREPPEL | ghost clusters | Mon Jul 25 1994 12:43 | 6 |
| See Notes
167.8 (Pointer to instructor guide) and
167.9 (Pointer to overheads)
in this conference.
Raymond.
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| 175.6 | are these final version? | TEACH::MARYJO | Maryjo Bader/341-6327/DCO-239 | Tue Jul 26 1994 10:01 | 3 |
| The last date on the files for the Cluster course are in May. Are
these final version or still pilot version? Has the student guide been
submitted to JIT yet?
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| 175.7 | final version | WAGGIS::FREPPEL | ghost clusters | Wed Jul 27 1994 14:42 | 51 |
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It just arrived...
(is there no corresponding entry in this conference? )
I N T E R O F F I C E M E M O R A N D U M
Date: 27-Jul-1994 09:42am CET
From: Sandro Polenta @ZUO
POLENTA
Dept: EDU
Tel No: DTN 760-2213
Message #:007177
TO: Raymond Freppel @BCO ( FREPPEL )
Subject: I: Cluster course information
I N T E R O F F I C E M E M O R A N D U M
Date: 26-Jul-1994 09:26pm CET
From: SADLER
SADLER@57383@ZUREDU@FLYWAY@MRGATE@SKYWAY@ZUO
Dept:
Tel No:
TO: POLENTA@A1_FLYWAY
Subject: FWD: the following course has been submitted to GEL:
From: HARDY::DENISE "Taimid ag deanamh an-iarracht" 8-JUL-1994 09:19:21.28
To: CAM2::SADLER, REGNELL
CC: MKOTS4::NELSON_D, NMS::FRANSEN, NM%AKOCOA::JBENOIT
Subj: the following course has been submitted to GEL:
Configuring & Managing Complex EY-Q154E-L0-0001
VMScluster Systems
the course has been reviewed and submitted and is now available
in the electronic library.
regards,
denise
VMSmail To information: @os-vbt
Sender's personal name: Andy Sadler - DTN: 276-9467 26-Jul-1994 1521
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| 175.8 | The new Operator course | NYOSS1::MORAN | Ed Moran | Thu Oct 27 1994 09:59 | 41 |
| I am a bit confused and concerned about the origins and evolution
of the new VMS System and Network Node Operations course, which
recently replaced VMS for Operators without, apparently, any
discussion in this Notes conference.
The first mention of the course seems to have been in note 175.0,
which said that EY-Q163E-IG-0002 (Operator) was being updated to
v6.1. There is no mention anywhere of a -0001 (the old VMS for
Operators was a different number, G993E). Was there such a
course? (I don't usually teach this.) I had received a Mail memo
some months back which said that the name of VMS for Operators was
being changed to be more in line with the Sysnet names, and that
the number had to be changed when the name changed. That, and the
mention of "updating for v6.1", hardly prepared me for the
completely rewritten course which now exists, and which I had to
attempt to teach last week.
My description of - and strong objections to - the drastic changes
are in the Operator note (see 117.11). My questions here are:
Whatever happened to curriculum discussions and instructor
reviews? And failing that, whatever happened to at least
notifying instructors that there is a new course?
---------------------------------------
Two other issues:
Why are we still giving out the v5.2 System Managers Manual and
v5.2 Users Manual in a v6.1 course?
Two of my operator students (from the same company) said that they
were in the class because "someone in Digital" told them that
this course was a prerequisite for Sysnet I, II, III. (Even
though I told them that every word in the Student Guide would be
repeated in the Sysnet I or II books, they decided to stay.) I
hope the people in Digital who deal with customers (registration,
sales, whomever) know that this is not true.
- Ed Moran
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| 175.9 | Notice was sent out in July | TEACH::MARYJO | Maryjo Bader/341-6327/DCO-239 | Tue Nov 01 1994 09:33 | 12 |
| The booklists are being updated as we speak. All of the AA part
numbers totally changed and finding out what the new ones were was not
an easy task. I sent an announcement out about this course to all the
VMS instructors in the US back in July so you might want to review your
mail. I even gave a pointer to the instructor guide so that you could
prep for it.
There are so few people left that I don't believe this notes file is
being used the way it used to be. People don't have the time to read
it anymore. Please bring your concerns directly to me. I am looking
into what can be done with the course.
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| 175.10 | Do NOT Stop Using This Conference! | WARNUT::GRAVESG | Geoff Graves,LS(UK);DTN 851 2637 | Wed Nov 02 1994 04:19 | 12 |
| re .9
Please do NOT stop using this notes conference for announcements
about OpenVMS courses!
There are instructors *outside the US* who may be missing from various
mailing lists and this conference is the one central source of
information which is available world wide. Learning Services is
(still) a world wide organisation and all instructors need to be kept
aware of corporate activities even though there may be local
adjustments made to course materials.
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| 175.11 | Re .9, .10 | NYOSS1::MORAN | Ed Moran | Mon Nov 07 1994 10:21 | 30 |
| Re .9:
> I sent an announcement out about this course to all the VMS
> instructors in the US back in July so you might want to review
> your mail. I even gave a pointer to the instructor guide so
> that you could prep for it.
Mary Jo, I appreciate the time and effort you put into your memos -
they are very valuable, and I know I probably get more useful
information from you than from all the other managers combined. Yes I
received that announcement - that is the one I was referring to in the
2nd paragraph of .8. And yes, I printed out the instructor guide to
prep. Its thinness was what prompted me to start contacting people
with my concerns back at the end of August.
> There are so few people left that I don't believe this notes file
> is being used the way it used to be. People don't have the time to
> read it anymore. Please bring your concerns directly to me.
I agree that this conference is not being used the way it used to be,
but I also agree with .10 that we should continue to use it. I had
already used EMail, the telephone, and face-to-face discussions to
report my concerns about this course. I just felt that the information
should also be here for the sake of everyone else. As for people not
having time to read this anymore, I feel that I don't have time not to.
I don't have the time to discover and deal with problems that someone
else might already have encountered. I hope others will continue to
post things here, including instructor comments on teaching
experiences and developer information on revisions and updates.
- Ed
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| 175.12 | Whither the guides? | BLKPUD::ROWEM | Frank Gamballi's Trousers! | Wed Mar 01 1995 11:48 | 6 |
| Kristen
Could you post the new location for IG's if they've moved
as I can't see the 2278::IDC$REVIEW:[V61_CURRICULUM_UPDATE]*.*;*
Ta Matt.
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| 175.13 | No Reply <> No User | ZPOVC::MANCHING | Copyright � �M�n �M��h�� | Mon Apr 17 1995 04:01 | 16 |
| RE: .10
No reply does not mean "nobody" is using the conference! I for one
rarely replies but constantly check for new stuffs.
Certainly I agree that the developers should continue to post
announcements on availability of new courses and instructors should
share problem experiences as well.
For people who doesn't have the benefit of "phoning" (since for us it
is long distance call) and "face-to-face talk" to the developers, the
conference is the only way we can find info.
RE:-1
I can't find the file neither.
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| 175.14 | Well, I have an answer...but... | SUPER::REGNELL | Smile...Payback is a Mother | Wed May 10 1995 13:34 | 14 |
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I am looking for the instructor guides for you folks. In general,
once a release has happened, the instructor guides move from
IDC$REVIEW to IDC$INSTRUCTOR_GUIDES...then you can pull the
IGs over from there.
But...it appears that our system manager has deleted the directory.
[sigh]
Let me hunt them down and get them reinstated. I will keep you
posted.
Mel
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