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    	Chapter 9 of Sysnet II entitled:
    
    	Performing Backups and Restores
    
    	is currently being rewritten and should be available for review by
    the middle of next week.
    
    	I am looking for information that you would like included on the
    instructor pages. What types of things do you normally tell your
    students that does not appear in the course text?
    
    	The current outline for the new backup information is as follows:
    
    	Making Backup Copies and Files
    		Image (full) and incremental backups
    		Save sets
    		The Backup Command line
                Qualifiers to Backup
    		Command Procedures (may not be included in this chapter)
    		Set proper parameters for Backup
    		Restoring Files
    		Restoring Files from incremental backups
    		Listing the contents of a Save set
    
    	Comments?
    
    		Thanks for the input,
    
    			Wendy
    		

    	A draft of the ninth Sysnet II chapter entitled:

    	         Performing Backups and Restores

    	   	   is available for review in:

    		
    	    SUPER::ES$REVIEW:[SYSNET_II]SYSNETII_CHAP9.PS


			   Wendy

    Nits	- prefixed [N]
    Typos 	- prefixed [T] 
    
    This module contains much useful information, well organized and, 
    for me, easily digested. I hasten to add that I'm not a BACKUP
    guru and haven't been to the BACKUP docs to verify the legality of
    combinations of qualifier and parameter.
    
    I have one serious concern. 
    On pages 9-10 and 9-11 we provide command procedures for performing
    backups. Should such sensitive operations carry a disclaimer on behalf
    of Digital? We don't accept responsibility for ... etc
    
    If a customer types in one of these procedures and goofs on one of
    the commands, qualifiers or whatever we could look silly.
    Just a thought...
    
    Page	Comment
    -------------------
    9-6a	[T] line 2: ont eh -> on the
    		[T] line 5: nothave -> not have
    		[T] line 9: imcremental -> incremental
    		[T] line 15: qulaifier -> qualifier
    		[T] line 16: inconsistant -> inconsistent
    	
    9-6		The bullets under the heading "Image and Incremental
    		Backups" change from "-" to "o" - has a line been
    		missed before the bullets that start "-"?
    
    		[T] Final bullet: suers -> users (there could be a stink
    		    about that typo!)
    
    		[N] next to last line: REPLY/All -> REPLY/ALL
    
    9-8a	[T] line 2: save -> saves
    
    		[T] penultimate line: magneetic -> magnetic
    
    9-8		[T] line 2: dot he -> do the
    
    		[T] bullet 2: teh -> the
    
    		Three lines from foot: the font seems extra small for this
    		command line.
    
    9-9a	line 5: delete comma after previous
    
    9-9		[T] Bullet 3: saves -> saved
    
    9-10a	BACKUP commands in mid-page: shouldn't the save set names
    		be different?
    
    9-10	[T] line 3: procedrues -> procedures
    
    9-14	[T] The code example's first command refers to
    		    DRA1: but the callout after the example refers to
    		    DRA2. I think the code example should be:
    			
    			$ MOUNT /FOREIGN DRA2:

                            Module 9
                  Performing Backups and Restores



Overall I thought that this was a pretty good chapter. I like how
there is an appendix on lots of the backup qualifiers. It gets to
be to much when all those are part of the main chapter.

9-8 two typo's. The first sentence (dot he) should be (do the).
The senond bullet (teh) should be (the).

The last sentence on the page-
     With this command line, you initialize the tape (with the /REWIND
command) ***--> should be  (/REWIND qualifier)
it continues--> and the tape has a volume label of 19JUNE (the first six
charaters of the saveset name.)
        -Should you also mention that the backup command mounts the
tape and the label comes from the save set name when it does this.

9-9 You mention the /label= qualifier but it should be discussed
on this page. for example why you need it.

9-10 This is a command procedure for nightly image backups and the explain-
ation says the following command procedure performs nightly image backups,
using DUA):.  This procedure will execute daily at 2:00 a.m. (* should
say --> this procedure will execute NIGHTLY at 2:00 a.m.

You also may mention that the procedure is only useful if you r backup
dos'nt take more than 1 tape, otherwise someone will need to be at work 
at 2:00 am to change tapes.

If you are doing an image backup of DUA0: chances are it won't fit on
one tape anyway.

9-13 Talk about the /FOREIGN qualifier and why you need it.  If we use
qualifiers we should say why.

9-15 Restoring files from an incremental backup.

   -Do you really need the /record qualifier on the RESTORE operation?
 
   -Explain why you do the restore in reverse chronological order and
just what the benefit is.

9-16 This is a good example, I'm glad to see it. Maybe tell them why they
need the /incremental qualifier.


Wendy Mullenhoff

		Performing Backups and Restores
		Chapter 9

Overall	-	BETTER than the old system management I.  I really like
		the flow of the topics.  Nicely done.


Objectives	Good list of objectives.  They are truly covered in
		this chapter.

9-6a		Typo in the first line at the end  "ont eh"
		Typo in the first line of the second paragraph "nothave"

9-6		Typo at the last bullet  "suers"

9-8		Typo on the first line "dot"
		Typo at the second bullet "teh"
		You may want to show an example using the /LABEL qualifier.

9-10		The directory for step one is incorrect.  You have [SYSTEM]
		when in fact it should be [SYSMGR].
		The tape drive was never mounted within this command
		procedure.

9-11		For step one maybe mention they should put this in 
		SYS$MANAGER directory.
		The tape drive was never mounted within this command
		procedure.

9-12		For the general format include the many places for
		qualifiers.

9-13		After the first bullet there is a sentence that begins
		with "The save set ...." Get rid of the last period.
		In writing technical journals ,due to syntax, it is
		OK to omit it since it could be confused with actual
		syntax.

9-16		What a VERY PLEASANT surprise.  
		This is a real life situation that the customers
		must clearly understand.
		Check the wording at bullet four.  In the command line
		PUBLIC is just a label.  Maybe reword the sentence at
		the bullet.

		Also - you have used disk and tape up to this point in
		this chapter. It might be a good idea to use the same
		with this example.

9-17		Show an example for item number 2. Maybe
		$BACKUP/REWIND/LIST MUA0:LYNN.BCK

Appendix	Clean up just a little bit.  Use names that a person can
		easily pronounce and provide spacing between the many
		examples.  Everything seems to run together.
	
		What about the tables for the qualifiers?  Maybe add
		them as an appendix. Even though they are not in this
		chapter students would have a place for reference.
		Maybe add a page on tape label processing and an
		appendix for the options of the /IGNORE qualifier.

Lynn White
Washington D.C.

This reply is limited to technical errors only.  I'll refrain from making
comments one way or the other about content, style, etc....

Module 4 (Performing Backups & Restores) in SYSNET II

p. 4-11		READALL privilege should be used instead of BYPASS in the 
		command procedure for nightly incremental backups.


				Susan

    page 4-9-  The command in the center that ends with: /label=219june
    
    This is 7 charactors.  labelsa should be 6 or less.
    
    Page 4-11  Remove the word "other" from the first sentence.  The
    procedure resubmits for every night.
    
    page 4-13  A whole save set would be a good thing here to look at.
    Most of the students have not seen one.
    
    Page 4-16  I know there has been a debate on this one.  I still
    feel that doing an image restore here, it is not needed to do
    a /record.  Why  do it.  It shows the last date of the last backup.
    (backup meaning "save"?)  We do not have a saveset any where that
    was done at this time.  In the backup/image      I would remove
    "/record".