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54.1 | Chapter 3 Views | DLO10::TARLING | | Wed May 08 1991 15:00 | 17 |
| Val, Kristin;
1. Page 1-6, It may be helpful to point out that filename and type
can be from 0-39 characters.
2. Page 1-10, Would like to see MFD,UFD,SFD defined on this page.
3. Page 1-12, The use of common incorrect examples is a desired
feature in the SG.
4. Page 1-14a, I agree, it would be helpful to make a drawing of
the directory structure. Could this be incluided in the SG?
5. Basically a good chapter.
Arnold.
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54.2 | The view from the UK | UKEDU::SHONE | Keith Shone @RKA 830-4074 | Fri May 10 1991 07:29 | 63 |
| Module: Naming and Storing Files
My views - not necessarily those of my colleagues.
Some of these comments I've made elsewhere - I think.
General comments:
My thanks to Kristin for incorporating some of my
suggestions. (e.g. Page 1-6a on alternative directory
delimiters). That goes for other modules too, even
if I omit to mention it.
Page Comment
1-6 Tempted to mention that a file could have a name:
.;1 - indeed system managers will probably get
queries from novice (and not so novice) users
about these odd names.
1-9 Line 2: another go at aspirates! "...an hierarchical..."!
1-17 Example 1-4 actually appears slightly differently on
the terminal from an output file. The file attributes
lines are barred to show what I mean. OK, OK I know
it's trivial but this new pack of nits are just itching...!
Directory DISK$USER:[EXAMPLES]
ADDUSER.COM;1 File ID: (762,7,0)
Size: 28/30 Owner: [SYSTEM]
Created: 20-JUL-1990 09:54:26.67
Revised: 15-FEB-1991 02:45:13.81 (3)
Expires: <None specified>
Backup: 8-MAY-1991 04:02:58.76
File organization: Sequential
| File attributes: Allocation: 30, Extend: 0, Global buffer count: 0
| No version limit
Record format: Variable length, maximum 83 bytes
Record attributes: Carriage return carriage control
RMS attributes: None
Journaling enabled: None
File protection: System:RWED, Owner:RWED, Group:RWED, World:R
Access Cntrl List: None
Total of 1 file, 28/30 blocks.
Also Example 1-5 isn't correct:
$ DIRECTORY /BRIEF SYS$EXAMPLES:ADDUSER.COM
Directory DISK$USER:[EXAMPLES]
ADDUSER.COM;1
Total of 1 file.
$
OK, the directory spec itself is different - that's our
system. But the protection code is not present either.
(This is from VMS 5.4-2). Checked synonyms for D*IRECTORY?
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54.3 | view of Holland | NWGEDU::WIERSMA | Drive a BENTLEY or walk... | Mon May 13 1991 18:01 | 28 |
| Review chapter:
NAMING AND STORING FILES
Page 1-8: Mention the /LOG qualifier in the examples of COPY.
Page 1-9: Last bullet. An extra one. Has the filetype (extension) .DIR
Page 1-11: Use a clearly layout. It coast me to much time to find all the
filenames together.
Why not filenames like ABC.TXT .LOG and a view .MAI
.FOR .LIS
.DATA .COM
Page 1-12: fourth bullet second example.
Only valid if your default directory is $1$DUA1:[ROUNDS]
Page 1-13: Last new line.
$SHOW DEFAULT (same as $set default. BOLD)
Page 1-17: Why not using a more easy to understand file like LOGIN.COM in a
normal directory.
Page 1-18: Missing the syntax $DIRECTORY [...]
Doei Arjen
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54.4 | many changes | TEACH::CHUCK | | Sat Jun 01 1991 01:43 | 39 |
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module 3: Page 1-5/6 In addition to this, I
would add the page in VMS operator that
explains the file specifications by
comparing them to a postcard address.
Please include the diagram of the
postcard.
Page 1-7 This is about wildcards, but
the ellipsis is not mentioned here, or
elsewhere, in this module. I think it
belongs and is important for users to
understand its use; especially system
managers.
Page 1-11 is not a typical file directory
with all those mail files. It does not
look normal. Let us not confuse the students
and open us up to the questions "Why so
many?" or "Is this normal?"
Also, the topic for this page is
"subdirectories". It is showing the
ufd with no .dir files. This is correct,
but on the same page, it should show the
same ufd after the subdirectories have
been created, and the files moved to them.
It could fit on the same page. I would show
page 1-11 first, then 1-10, for flow.
1-10 is the graphic fix for 1-11.
Page 1-13 I would talk about the SHOW
DEFAULT command first. Let us see where
we are before we try to go elsewhere.
Page 1-16 on. I would add more qualifiers
to the directory command.
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54.5 | comments from DC Training center | TEACH::WENDY | | Mon Jun 03 1991 13:16 | 11 |
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Module 3
Naming and storing files
1-11
Example 1-1
Maybe include the $Directory command in the display instead
of just the output.
Wendy mullenhoff
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