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Conference koolit::vms_curriculum

Title:VMS Curriculum
Moderator:SUPER::MARSH
Created:Thu Nov 01 1990
Last Modified:Sun Aug 25 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:185
Total number of notes:2026

33.0. "VMS FOR OPERATORS - CHAP 11" by HARDY::REGNELL (Smile!--Payback is a MOTHER!) Tue Jan 22 1991 08:55

	VMS FOR OPERATORS consists of:

		All the chapters of VMS FOR APPLICATION USERS

		Five specific chapters on operator topics.

	Chapter 11 is available for review:

	SUPER::ES$REVIEW:[RA0296]RA0296_CHAP_11_PROFILE.PS

	Deadline:

		January 29, 1991
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33.1Nice very nice - but why use the old HWCOPCLU::SVENDSENThu Jan 24 1991 08:4717
    Review RA0296: system upstart.

    Is there any sensible explanation for using the old 7xx series 
    processors in this chapter?? This totally discredits the whole chapter,
    that otherwise is excellent. It is elsewise just what I needed when I
    took sys mgr 1, details and a sensible flow for the chapter, that
    enables the teacher to supply the structure. 

    The examples are good, and could be basis for teaching this without
    access to a machine (should dire need arise). I particulary like the
    tables - they are good and give quick access to the relevant
    information.
    
    Best
    
    JOSS
    
33.2UK - more ancient H/W!UKEDU::SHONEKeith Shone @RKA 830-4074Mon Jan 28 1991 03:509
    This section is fine - I'm not an operator or system manager but it all
    makes sense!
    
    Ancient hardware again...
    
    Some nits:
    
    Page 11-19a	"The contents is totally..." should be "The contents are
    totally..."
33.3I hate hardware pictures...SUPER::REGNELLSmile!--Payback is a MOTHER!Mon Jan 28 1991 20:1727
    
    For lack of a better place to answer all the HARDWARE comments...
    
    Our current course of action calls for the elimination of ALL
    hardware art ANCIENT or OTHERWISE...
    
    These were in here because they fall out in the first round...
    but we intend to talk about the conecpt of PRINTERs without
    picturing any.
    
    Reason:
    
    As you have pointed out...it is impossible to keep the pictures
    up to date,...and eveybody has different hardware.
    
    Solution:
    
    Get thepictures our of software courses and let the hardware courses
    figure out what to do about them...[grin]. ACtually there was
    some conversation ahile back about a separate hardware book that would
    be maintained separately from courses....Andy...any more on that
    idea?
    
    Comments about removing hardware pictures? Going, going, gone?
    
    Mel
    
33.4Position of this moduleTEACH::CHUCKMon Apr 20 1992 14:383
    I teach this module first.  Doing it this way avoids a lot of questions
    about the hardware and things like "What is a node?" when we cover file
    specs. It lets mod 1-9 flow better.
33.5Hmmm...SUPER::REGNELLModularity MavenTue Apr 28 1992 17:058
    
    Intertesting thought. It is "11" because in the first go-round,
    things sort of got segregated into "core" and "operator".
    But there is no technical reason why this chapter could not
    go first.
    
    Other comments?