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Conference koolit::vms_curriculum

Title:VMS Curriculum
Moderator:SUPER::MARSH
Created:Thu Nov 01 1990
Last Modified:Sun Aug 25 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:185
Total number of notes:2026

15.0. "VMS FOR APPLICATION USERS - CHPATER REVIEW" by HARDY::REGNELL (Smile!--Payback is a MOTHER!) Tue Nov 27 1990 15:22

    
    GETTING HELP
    
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15.1Draft ready for reviewSUPER::ROUNDSKristin Rounds, DTN 381-1066Fri Dec 07 1990 12:043
A draft of this module is available for review in:

	SUPER::ES$REVIEW:[RA0293]RA0293_CHAP_9_PROFILE.PS
15.2Reading, UK - too much missingUKEDU::SHONEKeith Shone @RKA 830-4074Thu Dec 13 1990 10:272
    There's such a lot missing from my review copy that it's unfair  to
    make comments at this stage.
15.3Second draft availableHARDY::ROUNDSKristin Rounds, DTN 381-1066Thu Jan 10 1991 17:069
A revised version of this chapter has been placed in 

	SUPER::ES$REVIEW:[RA0293]RA0293_CHAP_9_PROFILE.PS

I have taken out most of the information about Bookreader because
that belongs in the DECwindows version of the course.  I've also
filled in the missing information about using the documentation 
set.

15.4UK finds nits - nothing serious!UKEDU::SHONEKeith Shone @RKA 830-4074Mon Jan 14 1991 07:0338
    This has great potential for being a really dry old topic!
    Best done after a three course lunch with wine...
    
    I have to confess to not using the Master Index more than for a few
    moments in my time with Digital and VMS software. However, I'm a
    frequent user of VMS Help.
    
    Comments:
    
    Page 1-10:	Bullet 4: this should read:
    
    			o  U - General User Subkit
    
    		The ensuing two bullets should also state Subkit rather
    		than manuals. I base my observation on the terminology
    		used by the Master Index
    
    		Next to last line: typo -> convering should be covering
    
    Page 1-12:	Line 3: "...you need a read a..." ->
    			"...you need to read a..."
    	
    		Bullet 1: appears -> appear
    		Bullet 2: appears -> appear
    
    		These are just English grammatical queries and one might
    		argue that in the first instance the plural form is OK.
    		Both are only nits!
    
    Page 1-15:	In the V5.4 Master Index the example entry looks like
    		this:
    
    		Login command procedure o (U) Files and Devices,
    			2-8; (U) Command Procedures, 1-9
    
    		The odd "o" is actually a bullet in the doc.
    
    -- Keith
15.5Getting HELPNWGEDU::JANSSENMon Jan 14 1991 10:2957
    Hi Mel,

    Some complementary comments to Keith's reply.
    
    Comments:

    Page 1-10:  Change manuals into volumes in the next sentences:
                "The subkits are identified with one of the 
                following letters on the volumes binder spine for
                easy reference:  etc,etc..."
                
                Within each subkit, the individual volumes covering 
                specific topics are further organized into manuals.


    Page 1-15:	When you give an example, display the contents in the 
                same way as the master index, because not every 
                student will have the General User volume 1 on his 
                desk, ie.:
                Login command procedure .(U) Files and Devices,
                    2-8; (U) Command Procedures, 1-9
                   alternate .(M) Setting Up VMS, 4-9
                   etc. etc.

    Then give an example of how to handle with the documentation when 
    you have the next problem:
      How can I change my password?

      Solution:
       1. Look up in the Master Index Volume 1 General User Subkit.

              Password .(U) VMS Intro, 1-1; (M) SYSMAN 
                 SM-5, SM-68
                See also System password
                See Security Management
                etc.
                etc.
                changing .(U) Using VMS, 1-2; (U) DCL
                    Dictionary, DCL2-184; (M)Security, 3-8,
                    3-10, 5-18
                etc.

       2. Look up in Using VMS manual on page 1-2.
          If this is the answer for your problem, then it's o.k.,
          other look further in the DCL Dictionary manual on page 
          DCL2-184. If you still don't have the answer then go on 
          searching.

          An exercise:
          Give ten problems, so that each group of two student have 
          to solve one of the ten problems. It will be very nice if 
          each group will have his solution in another manual.
  

    Ed.

                                          
15.6New version availableSUPER::ROUNDSKristin Rounds, DTN 381-1066Tue Apr 30 1991 07:565
This is now chapter 6, "Getting Help".  Information on BOOKREADER has
been removed.

	SUPER::ES$REVIEW:[RA0293]RA0293_CHAP_6_HELP.PS

15.7Errors/nits - only a few!DUCK::SHONEKKeith Shone UK Edu 830-4074Thu May 02 1991 06:2318
    Comments:
    
    Page 1-9:
    The subkit lettering is M for system management not S
    
    Page 1-13:
    Bullet 2: the example text has a small error:
    
    	"execution of batch jobs" should read
        "execution of for batch jobs" 
    
    It reads oddly but it means "execution of login procedures for batch
    jobs"
    
    Page 1-14:
    Example 1 text: "See Security management" (the master index
    appears to have a typo and starts management with a capital)
    You can regard this as a super nit!