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Conference 44.370::system_management

Title:system management communications forum
Moderator:CHEST::THOMPSON
Created:Fri Mar 21 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jul 08 1993
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:490
Total number of notes:2018

274.0. "System Down-time" by ANKLE::EBDON (But Basingstoke *is* a dump!) Fri Aug 18 1989 12:49


Why was U39 shut down for 40 minutes today without the consent of the users?
This is a support machine and must be available during normal working
hours, to enable us to provide the agreed support level to European
sub's.

Terry
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274.1Because... NECK::THOMPSONFri Aug 18 1989 13:1512
	All PDP's were shut down for a scheduled hardware check of RA60 packs.
IS cleared the shutdown with me at the beginning of this week. 
I checked that U3 and SEPTIC were OK, but clearly I must have 'missed' 
the U39 system manager.

	I apologise to you and all the other U39 users who were affected.

	To stop it happening again can you please tell me who 'looks after'
U39/U3/SEPTIC.

	Jerry
	who-thought-he-left-system-management-12-months-ago
274.2CURRNT::BADMANStandardization breeds mediocrity.Fri Aug 18 1989 18:165
    you-*never*-leave-system-management-its-with-you-for-LIFE!

    
    
    				Jamie.
274.3Security problem? NECK::THOMPSONJerry Thompson (7)781-4421Mon Oct 23 1989 13:4715
	So nobody runs U39 then, it just runs itself. Just as I thought, these
	state of the art RSTS operating systems must be years ahead of VMS.
	But seriously though folks...


Q1 - If U39 has no system manager, who's responsible for implementing security
     patches on it?

Q2 - If the answer to Q1 = "nobody is responsible", then shouldn't IS be taking
     taking U39 off the air until some poor innocent can be found to take on
     the role?

     Surely if this is an essential 'support' machine then the users can
     volunteer at least one suitable candidate for the post of U39 system
     mangler. 
274.4HEWIE::RUSSELLThis is the dawning of the age of...Tue Oct 24 1989 14:0811
    re .2;
    
    Q1 - there are no relevant patches for RSTS/E V8.0; it's hard enough
    to talk to it when you want to....
    
    Q2 - there should be an allocated system mangler for each system;
    I'm "it" for MAIDEN and SEPTIC, but I dunno for U39 and the 11/44
    system.
    
    Peter.