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Conference 44.370::system_management

Title:system management communications forum
Moderator:CHEST::THOMPSON
Created:Fri Mar 21 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jul 08 1993
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:490
Total number of notes:2018

264.0. "DECNET nodes in hidden areas" by NECK::THOMPSON () Wed Aug 02 1989 19:06

    
    There is a severe shortage of node numbers in DECNET area 44 which is
    impacting the capacity of the area 44 routing nodes. To reduce the load
    on routing nodes we've been asked to renumber some of the ADG nodes so
    that they appear in the hidden area (63).
    
    I propose the following as candidates to move to DECNET area 63.
    If you are the owner of these machines please read the guides to
    DECNET hidden areas and let me know asap if you believe that you will
    be unable to run your node effectively if the node is moved to area 63.
    
    
MVAXII'S
--------
		To move to hidden area...
    
*	CALF		44.318		Office Systems development
*	FINGER		44.306		MVAX pool
*	HAIR		44.317		MVAX pool
*	PODULE		44.303		MVAX pool
*	SOOTY		44.304		MVAX pool
*	ARMPIT		44.308		Database design/devpt machine

GPXII's
-------
		To move to hidden area...
*	ANKLE		44.310		Devpt machine
*	BACK		44.313		"
*	BOTTOM		44.314		Devpt machine
*	EAR		44.311		"	
*	GROYNE		44.322		Devpt machine	-Mgmt reporting
*	HEWIE		44.300		"		-DECwindows
*	SPINE		44.315		Devpt machine - tech documentation
*	THROAT		44.316		(May have to stay in 44)
*	ISTG02		44.356 		IS standards/ACMS devpt.

VS2000's
--------
		To move to hidden area...
*	CONK		44.495	
*	SNOZZL		44.496	
*	KNUCKL		44.498	
*	GNASHR		44.498	
*	LUGOLE		44.499


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264.1New node numbers + dates for changesNECK::THOMPSONWed Aug 09 1989 12:4784
	This example shows the steps needed to change to the DECNET node number
    of a standalone VAX.
    
    If your node is in a LAVC (CONK/SNOZZL/KNUCKL/GNASHR/LUGOLE)then the
    manager of the boot node will renumber your node for you.

For standalone VAXes substitute your new hidden area number (63.something) 
and node name as necessary. 


	Say the present node is SPORRN , DECNET address 44.10
	New DECNET address 63.150

1) Edit SYS$SYSTEM:MODPARAMS.DAT at the end of the file add the line
SCSSYSTEMID=64662

The number is calculated from the new DECNET address i.e. (1024 x 63) + 150
Comment out any other values for SCSSYSTEMID in modparams.dat

2) Run AUTOGEN
$ @sys$update:autogen getdata setparams
	or, if you're running a VMS 5.x system
$ @sys$update:autogen getdata setparams feedback

	This will 'register' your new scssystemid for the next reboot.

3) Run NETCONFIG

$ @sys$manager:netconfig

        DECnet-VAX network configuration procedure

This procedure will help you define the parameters needed to get DECnet
running on this machine.  You will be shown the changes before they are
executed, in case you wish to perform them manually.

What do you want your DECnet node name to be?        [SPORRN]:
What do you want your DECnet address to be?           [44.10]: 63.10
Do you want to operate as a router?         [NO (nonrouting)]:
Do you want a default DECnet account?                    [NO]:Yes
(Other questions follow if you're running VMS 5.2)
Then...
  Answer YES to set the new DECNET parameters but NO to restarting DECNET.
This means you'll define the new values but won't set them in NCP yet.

4) Shutdown and reboot your VAX

5) Update your network database from CURVE.

$ MC NCP
NCP> Copy known node from CURVE to PERMANANENT using volatile
NCP> Set known nodes all

	(Note this will give you a FULL database. You may not want this as
	it will gobble up memory and lead to slower reboots. If you want a
	small database just set and define the nodes you're interested in).

	Also note that CURVE will be used to hold a copy of an up to date
network database for our (CRESCENT + VIABLES) hidden area as well as the rest
of the visible part of EASYNET. So do your NETUPDATES from CURVE if you access
ADG's hidden area nodes.
    
    	These nodes will change this Friday afternoon - 11th Aug
    		Old address	New address
    HAIR	44.317		63.87
    BOTTOM	44.314		63.92
    EAR		44.311		63.93
    SPINE	44.315		63.95
    
    	These nodes will change next Friday afternoon - 18th Aug
    		Old address	New address
    CALF	44.318		63.85
    FINGER	44.306		63.86
    ANKLE	44.310		63.91
    GROYNE	44.322		63.94
    CONK	44.495		63.98
    SNOZZL	44.496		63.99
    KNUCKL	44.497		63.100
    GNASHR	44.498		63.101
    LUGOLE	44.499		63.102
    	
    	These nodes will remain in area 44
    
    SOOTY / HEWIE / THROAT.
264.2AlternativelyBACK::HAYCOXBaby you make me go Brummm Brumm...Thu Aug 10 1989 11:0428
    
    
    Use savparams instead of getdata on the autogen otherwise it messes
    up your feedback data.
    
    Don't bother with NETCONFIG otherwise it trashes all the objects
    defined by product installations. Just go into ncp, eg
    
    $ MCR NCP
    NCP> SET EXEC ADDRESS 63.xxx
    NCP> DEF EXEC ADDRESS 63.xxx
    
    While you are there check that max address is 1023 or else you might
    not get a network on the reboot.
    
    NCP> SHOW EXEC CHAR
           .
           .
    Broadcast routing timer  = 180
    Maximum address          = 1023
    Maximum circuits         = 16
           .
           .
           .

    Set and define if necessary, then REBOOT.
    
    Ian.
264.3So that's what a hidden area is.NECK::THOMPSONFri Sep 08 1989 11:5853
All DECNET area 63 nodes disappeared from FUTURS/CURRNT/PASTIT sometime this
week, so to save typing them all in again here's a couple of procedures to
redefine and set all the ADG nodes that I know about in area 63. Needs privs for
it to work. I'm too lazy to find out which ones.

(apologies for the inefficient use of NCP)

$ !this is SET63.com
$ set proc/priv=all	!2 priv states = all or none
$ ncp == "$NCP"
$ !p1 is node name
$ !p2 is node number
$	ncp clear node 'p1 all
$	ncp purge node 'p1 all
$	ncp set node 'p2 name 'p1
$	ncp def node 'p2 name 'p1
$ exit



$ !this is SETUP63.com, calls set63.com
$ set noon
$ @set63 shirly 63.35
$ @set63 tracey 63.36
$ @set63 carole 63.37
$ @set63 caught 63.38
$ @set63 sheela 63.39
$ @set63 pennie 63.40
$ @set63 sknees 63.41
$ @set63 evelyn 63.42
$ @set63 cathie 63.43
$ @set63 vickie 63.44
$!
$ @set63 boomps 63.61
$ @set63 adaisy 63.62
$!
$ @set63 calf	63.85
$ @set63 finger 63.86
$ @set63 hair	63.87
$ @set63 podule 63.88
$ @set63 armpit 63.90
$ @set63 ankle	63.91
$ @set63 bottom 63.92
$ @set63 ear	63.93
$ @set63 groyne 63.94
$ @set63 spine	63.95
$!
$ @set63 istg10 63.97
$ @set63 conk	63.98
$ @set63 snozzl 63.99
$ @set63 knuckl 63.100
$ @set63 gnashr 63.101
$ @set63 lugole 63.102