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Conference 44.370::system_management

Title:system management communications forum
Moderator:CHEST::THOMPSON
Created:Fri Mar 21 1986
Last Modified:Thu Jul 08 1993
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:490
Total number of notes:2018

174.0. "ALL-IN-1 on FUTURS" by CHEST::BATEMAN (Sic biscuitus disintegrat) Thu Sep 08 1988 12:30

    
    Following the announcement of the installation of ALL-IN-1 on the
    FUTURS cluster, I wonder how many All-IN-1 users System Management
    anticipate using this resource ?
    
    Many FUTURS users have experienced performance problems... even
    not being able to access the system due to the maximum number of
    users on the nodes being exceeded. 
    
    And now this "CPU killer" is being let loose on FUTURS ?!?!?!?
    
    Is there a case for System Management checking the number of active
    user accounts v performance on our hardware, before allowing certain
    software products to be installed ?                               
    
    Chris.
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174.1Phew, what a relief!CHEST::BATEMANSic biscuitus disintegratThu Sep 08 1988 12:522
    I have been informed by IS that this product is only being installed for
    development purposes, not as I feared for general usage.
174.2Constructive discussion only!CHEST::BATEMANSic biscuitus disintegratFri Sep 09 1988 18:0220
    However... my comments on system performance still stand. This is
    not criticism of I.S.,(who unfortunately are working under extreme
    conditions to maintain a service to the whole of Basingstoke - not
    just the Crescent) but more a thought provoker.
    
    As Geoff Shingles commented ... we are all working hard, we should
    be working better. Again, I am not implying that I.S. are not working
    hard enough, but shouldn't there be somebody who is looking at the
    Big Picture to check that computer resources are being used
    effectively.
    
    Could this be a self-policing operation by a consensus of ADG
    personnel, who could look at the impact/growth of projects on specific
    nodes, where moving the project or rather allocating new projects
    to different nodes, could reduce potiential problems ?  Are there
    are steps (not requiring IS intervention) that we can do to assist
    ourselves as system users ?
    
    Again, this is not "I.S. knocking", but suggestions for discussion
    and comment.                                       
174.3but STOPIT already has itRDGE43::JANJUALets go for it.Tue Sep 13 1988 11:207
        Why  do we need to have ALL-IN-1 on futurs for Development when 
        this product is already installed on STOPIT (EUE) for this very 
        reason ?
        
        May be someone could explain why ?
        
        Danish.
174.4So does FUTURS!!!ELBOW::DRAPERSteve DraperTue Sep 13 1988 12:2010
    For those people who haven't realised (and I now know of at least
    two!), ALL-IN-1 has been present on FUTURS for a long time. This
    is really a re-installation.
    
    As to the overall problem of performance: there is a good deal of
    work going on to try to help alleviate this, and I will post more
    information about it in a separate note in the near future (no pun
    intended!!).
    
    Steve