Title: | system management communications forum |
Moderator: | CHEST::THOMPSON |
Created: | Fri Mar 21 1986 |
Last Modified: | Thu Jul 08 1993 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 490 |
Total number of notes: | 2018 |
This also refers to Note 25.8 in UCG_SUGGESTION BOX. I think that its about time that I explain the procedure of having accounts reauthorized when you receive a message that informs you that your account is about to expire. 1. Firstly a little bit of history.... These rules of account expiry and change of passwords etc. I believe was set up approximately a year ago. All Digital sites are required for Systems Security Auditing purposes to have authorised records of all accounts on their machines. This is defined in the Field Computing Implementation Model issued to IS. When this was implemented in ADG by Jerry last year, each user was given a form to fill in with a covering letter explaining the procedure and that the accounts would only be valid for a year and what action would then have to be taken. We now have a copy of the letter that went out with the forms at the time. The original can be obtained from Steve Draper. I have taken the following extracts from the Field Implementation Model for your information: 8.3.2 Account Management Computer system accounts are assigned to employees so that they may properly complete their respective job functions. Employees are to use the computing resources of Digital for the conduct of Digital business only. Account holders are forbidden to use their account privileges to gain access to other accounts for which they are not expressly authorised. ALL accounts should be allowed to expire at least once a year. Accounts will not be given to any individual without formal authorisation. Note: Contract staff are required to have their accounts reauthorized every three months. 8.3.3 User Accounts System operations management will clearly define the process for creation of user accounts. The requests will be in writing and maintained in a central file for at least one year. As a minimum these will contain the following: * Requester's signature, with a statement of need and acceptance of responsibilities. * Authorisation signature of requester's manager. * System manager signature, and the account termination date. Elevated privileges should only be allowed for a particular project and removed from the account at project completion. * Users are responsible to restrict access to their files when Digital proprietary information is in the file. The action will be taken at file creation. The rules in the Field Computing Model were put into place for very good reasons to protect the company and the users and as employees of the company they should be strictly followed. This also includes IS staff - no employee is exempt including ADG. I received my mail about account expiry last week and am expected as everyone else is to obtain authorisation for continuation of the account. The requirement for this procedure is only once a year for permanent staff, surely to take 10 minutes out of a year to complete a form cannot cause anyone that much hardship. 2. How it is Implemented on the ADG machines. A command procedure is run each night in batch to check for accounts that will be expiring in the near future. This is how is works: Approximately 2 months before it is due to expire a message is sent from an account called SYSUSER10 for example informing the user that the account is due to expire. The messages are then sent out at frequencies of one month before expiry date and then each week. Approximately 7 days before the account is due to expire a message is sent to the user every day. This procedure was put in place by Jerry as there were complaints. No warnings were given of account expiry last year. I do agree with everyone's comments about the mail message that is sent, and I will endeavour to change it as soon as I can and will include more meaningful information. My name was substituted for Jerry's when the machines were handed over to IS and its was wrongly assumed that everyone would know who I am. 3. Procedure for having an account expiry date extended. On receiving the mail message informing you that your account has expired, you will at present have to collect your old form from us. They are available from the Telephone Operations Room (Call Desk) on the Ground Floor in Block C. The form then has to be signed by an authorised manager and an new expiry date entered. The current list of authorised signatories: Steve Emery Kevin Mckenna Barbara Huckle Ian Sams Steve Draper Carolyn Trevellyan Once these have been approved then the forms can be returned to the Call Desk for checking. The expiry dates will be extended as stated on the form. We are currently in the process of designing a common account expiry extension form which will be available from someone in ADG (yet to be named!) to save all of you the trouble of coming down to Block C. It will also eliminate the loss of forms which at the moment is happening. I will post notes in the System Mangement Notes files how and when the procedures change. I hope the above has clarified some of your questions and concerns. If not then please put an entry in the System Management Notes file the Operations Group will be happy to answer them. Regards, Wanda
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152.1 | some help.... | FOOT::CPERKINS | CATHRYN PERKINS dtn 7781 4375 @UCG | Thu Jul 07 1988 10:23 | 13 |
If any of you can't be bothered to take the exercise to the call desk to get your Account forms for re-authorisation..... talk nicely to the Summer Student Darren Latimer who will get them for you. ^^^^^^^ He has, as some of you maybe aware, got most of our user account forms and is coming round with them this week but I suspect that some project accounts are not taken care of yet. Cathryn P.S. Before you ask, yes | |||||
152.2 | FOOT::RUSSELL | Speak softly, and carry a beagle. | Thu Jul 07 1988 10:32 | 4 | |
Thanks for the information, Wanda. Peter. | |||||
152.3 | Another Amazonian rain forest bites the dust!! | GROYNE::HAYES | Ian Hayes, DTN 781 ext 4327 | Thu Jul 07 1988 14:14 | 9 |
Why can't this process be made paperless? A simple application to fill in a form with the necessary, which is subsequently electronically signed by a manager. What a super opportunity to explore an 'electronic signature' application. That technology is on its way anyway so let's try it out. Go for it! Ian (who is only thinking of the poor trees!) | |||||
152.4 | Difficulties | CSMADM::MARSHALL | Fri Jul 08 1988 17:42 | 7 | |
I agree Ian. That would make my situation easier. My accounts are probably due to expire, and as I am 4000 miles away there is not a lot I can do about it. Steve_who_wants_to_keep_his_accounts_please | |||||
152.5 | SET EXPIRE /NOTIFY /PLEASE /DATE=WEEKDAY | SOOTY::POWELL | I admit it - I LIKE Vogon poetry!! | Sun Nov 11 1990 22:50 | 17 |
I'm curious to know what happened to the procedure described in the base notes 91 and 152. I was "looking forward" to getting a little work in this evening (yes I know it's Sunday) but my account on CURNNT appears to have expired. There are lists of accounts which *HAVE* expired in note 373, but nothing about those which will - and I certainly haven't received any mail messages. May I humbly suggest the following: 1) Reinstate the two_month_before notifications, and 2) Set expiry dates that don't fall in the weekends David. | |||||
152.6 | There is a process, but . . . | HEWIE::RUSSELL | Middle-aged Mutant Hero Turtle (UK option) | Mon Nov 12 1990 15:29 | 19 |
it seems to be broken. As you all know, we had a fire a while ago that destroyed all the records for accounts, etc. The automated process that was in place was usd by UCG Ops staff to chase users. This process doesn't seem to have been set up by local SBP Ops. Keith is now aware of this, but as you all know he's somewhat busy at the moment. We'll see what can be done to re-instate this process. Of course, if you usd DFS, you could still have accessed the files from your workstation (in theory, at least!) Peter. | |||||
152.7 | SET EXPIRE /DATE=(WEEKDAY=BEING_DONE) /NOTIFY=(STILL_NEEDED) | CURRNT::POWELL | I admit it - I LIKE Vogon poetry!! | Mon Nov 12 1990 19:11 | 12 |
Re .-1 First, can I say that those friendly people in IS, when contacted about my account, suggested a new date in the middle of the week without prompting - full marks to them! :-)) However, the next date has been set to April so only 6 months :-{ But as for DFS - tried it but no joy. Message was sommat about privilege violation. David. | |||||
152.8 | SET EXPIRE /NOTIFY /PRETTY_PLEASE /SOON | NEWOA::POWELL | David Powell | Thu Oct 17 1991 12:09 | 12 |
Re .6 A year later and I'm back again. My account has just expired yet again. It's been a whole year so I thought/hoped/assumed that the automated notification procedure would be in place by now. As it is, it looks like I'm going to lose a whole mornings productivity just because I didn't have any warning. My guess is I'll be back next year! David. | |||||
152.9 | Expirations.... | HEWIE::RUSSELL | Hari Krishna, Hari Ramsden, Hari Hari | Thu Oct 17 1991 13:17 | 11 |
re .8; Keith is currently working on resurrecting and improving this process, along with some others to ease the system management workload. David, a phone call to Andrew Glynn will (would have?) un-expired your account immediately, with a couple of day's grace to get the paperwork completed. It certainly shouldn't waste a morning; five minutes, maybe... Peter. | |||||
152.10 | Hmmm... | CURRNT::POWELL | I admit it - I LIKE Vogon poetry!! | Thu Oct 17 1991 22:39 | 20 |
> David, a phone call to Andrew Glynn will (would have?) un-expired > your account immediately, with a couple of day's grace to get the > paperwork completed. > > It certainly shouldn't waste a morning; five minutes, maybe... OK. I admit to some annoyance creeping in, but... at the risk of stating the obvious, since the name Andrew Glynn was new to me until about 5 minutes ago, I could not have known that this morning. Since in the past I have been required to send mail as confirmation of similar requests, I decided to avoid the 'phone this time and send mail first. (Warning! Sour grapes rathole alert) I'm afraid the "oh, no, you shoulda done that, mate" syndrome is one I'm all too familiar with. David. | |||||
152.11 | Well,,,, | HEWIE::RUSSELL | Hari Krishna, Hari Ramsden, Hari Hari | Fri Oct 18 1991 10:51 | 13 |
without starting a rathole, Andrew has been the system manager for at least a couple of weeks now. An announcement to this effect was made via mail, at least down here. The point I was trying to make was "Make a phone call, and the account (or whatever) will be fixed up immediately, but only for a limited time- the paperwork is required to give you an extra year." Peter. |