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Conference 44.370::system_management

Title:	system management communications forum

Moderator:	CHEST::THOMPSON

Created:	Fri Mar 21 1986
Last Modified:	Thu Jul 08 1993
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	490
Total number of notes:	2018

91.0. "Zapping files on clusters" by RDGE00::THOMPSON () Thu Nov 19 1987 17:53

    Remember we all filled in lots and lots of paper forms to declare
    what accounts we use/own on ADG's Vaxes - well this revealed a whole
    load of other accounts which remained unclaimed
    
    Now that the unclaimed accounts have been lying around for 3 months
    with access disabled on them,  the files and account names are about
    to be deleted. 
    
    Starting with the SUPPORT cluster, unclaimed accounts are being
    backed up to tape and removed from disc. Next week it will be the
    turn of the ADG cluster (26th Nov) and FUTURES will follow on or
    about 30th Nov. 
    
    All remaining accounts have expiry dates on them. If your account
    is due to expire in the next 60 days you will get a mail message
    to remind you to register it again. The message will be sent out
    again when there are 4,3,2,and 1 weeks left to go, and then every
    day during the last week - this is called 'being informative'.
    
    Once the expiry date has passed the files associated with the login 
    directory of the account will be left on disk for another 30 days
    - this is called 'being cautious'.
    
    If the account still hasn't been claimed 30 days after expiry it
    will be backed up to tape and deleted - this is called 'being safe'. 

    Problems might arise if you use files which are not in your login
    directory structure that nobody has bothered to claim. So if you find
    over the next week you suddenly get 'file-not-found' type messages 
    on the clusters it might pay to phone either myself (6746) or Shaun(6674)
    so that we can restore the files from tape.

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
91.1	More info please.	HEWIE::HAYWARD	Concerned of Tilehurst	`Fri Nov 20 1987 11:06`	10
	JERRY, Just a quick thought, perhaps you could post a list of all the accounts/top directories here. That we we all can see what has/will be deleted. This is called " Lets be carefull out there, some of us may be human !!" Iain :-)
91.2	Dead , but not forgotten	RDGE00::THOMPSON		`Fri Nov 20 1987 17:31`	30
	These accounts were removed from the Support cluster this week. and their files deleted after backup to tape. See Jerry or Shaun ifyou need any of these files restored. Username : ARMGR - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.MAPSAR] Username : CHAMBERS - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.CHAMBERS] Username : CRAVEN - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.CRAVEN] Username : CROSSLEY - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.CROSSLEY] Username : DISCUS - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.DISCUS] Username : DRAPER2 - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.DRAPER2] Username : EISD - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.EISD] Username : EOYBOY - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.EOYBOY] Username : GUEST - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.USER] Username : HASTINGS - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.HASTINGS] Username : JANJUA - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.JANJUA] Username : JOHNS - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.JOHNS] Username : MACMILLAN - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.MACMILLAN] Username : MEMBER - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.MEMBER] Username : MIGRATION010 - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.MIGRATION010] Username : PLATT - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.PLATT] Username : STCRECEIVE - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.STC] Username : STEPHENS - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.STEPHENS] Username : SYMPOSIUM - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.SYMPOSIUM] Username : SYMSAV - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.SYMPOSIUM] Username : SYSUSER - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.SYSUSER] Username : THOMSON - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.THOMSON] Username : TOLAS_BCK - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.TOLAS] Username : WESTERBY - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.WESTERBY]
91.3	Zapped who?	FOOT::PLATT		`Mon Nov 23 1987 09:42`	16
	Jerry, Have you deleted your own account? Username : THOMSON - Account deleted on 17-NOV-1987 [Directory DEAD.THOMSON] P.S. You have not deleted my account. Just as well I still use it. And yes I did fill in a form. Pete' Platt
91.4	Wrong cluster?	RDGE00::THOMPSON		`Tue Nov 24 1987 12:55`	5
	No - I didn't delete THOMPSON, I deleted THOMSON. And what is more .... there's no sign of a user called PLATT in the UAF on the SUPPORT cluster as far as I can see, unless it's spelt with a silent P perhaps?.
91.5	Set proc/priv=doesn't work any more	RDGE00::THOMPSON		`Tue Nov 24 1987 13:10`	11
	And another thing - all those privileged accounts that bypass system security checks to get at files we don't own etc..... Very shortly any account with non-standard privileges (i.e. most privs other than NETMBX and TMPMBX) will have those extra privileges for 60 days only. After that the privileges will be removed unless System Management (Jerry/Shaun) get a new, freshly-signed by-your-manager, account request form. Each account will be 'mailed' up to 7 days in advance of the privilege being removed.
91.6	ADG account zapping....	FOOT::MARSHALL_SI		`Fri Nov 27 1987 10:02`	115
	These usernames havn't been claimed. They are about to be removed from the ADG cluster after backup to tape:- ABC APMGR ARMGR ARMS ARMS1 ATTAWAY BEFORE BILLING BSEDEV BULMER CAM2 CHAMBERS CHAPMAN CLICUSER COMANDEV COOKE COOPER CPS_TRAINING CRAVEN CRESSWELL CROSSLEY CUBITT CUSTSURV DCS350DEV DCSIS DDMLS DECBOPNW DECBOPSW DECOD DECODIN DECODU1 DHGC DISCS1 DISCS2 DURHAM DXQMTRC1 DXQTEST DXUTEST EDS_SUP EDWARDS ELLIS EOYBOY FALTER FIELD_SERV FLRSYS GENDEV GLMGR GREEN GUEST HANDLEY HASTINGS HAY HUGGINS HUNT JAMES KEW KNIGHT KOSKUBA LATCHEM LESLEY LEVANHUY LEVEL1 LEVEL2 MAPSAP MAPSAR MAPSGL MARSMAN MCCARRON MCNEILL MDS_DEMO MISDEMO MLSMAN MLSQUERY MLSSUP MLSUS1 NPDUSERS OASBOPSETA OEV OEVDEMO PANESAR PERBAS PERBEL PERS02 PIMEXP PIMSPAY PJONES PWJTEST RACES2 RAINBOW RANSON RICHARDS ROSSTEST SAGAVAX SALESDEV SALESREF SDPTS1 SIMSYS SIMTIME SMART SPRINT3 SPRINTEN SPRINTNE SPRINTSC SPRINTSE SPRINTSW SPRINTWA STEPHENS SUTCLIFFE TASDEV TROY WESTERBY
91.7	Bye Bye Futures accounts!	CHEST::MARSHALL_SI		`Wed Dec 02 1987 12:28`	44
	FUTURES ACCOUNT ZAP ------------------- The Following accounts on the futures cluster are going to be archived to tape and zapped. Late claimers should fill in an account request form and return to either Shaun or Jerry very quickly. Username Top level Directory Delete Directory ? -------- ------------------- ------------------ ABC DISK$DEV005:[ABC] Yes BARAR DISK$U43:[BARAR] No COOKE DISK$DEV005:[COOKE] Yes CRAVEN $98$DUA5:[CRAVEN] Yes CRESSWELL DISK$DEV005:[CRESSWELL] Yes CSCOTT DISK$DEV005:[TAS] No DISCS SYS$SYSDEVICE:[DISCS] Yes DUNSTER DISK$DEV005:[TAS] No DURAND DISK$U43:[DURAND] Yes ELLIS DISK$U43:[ELLIS] Yes HASTINGS DISK$U43:[HASTINGS] Yes HAYES DISK$U43:[HAYES] Yes JIM DISK$DEV005:[JAMES] Yes KEW DISK$U43:[KEW] Yes MACMILLAN DISK$DEV013:[MACMILLAN] Yes MASSEY DISK$DEV005:[MASSEY] Yes MLSQUERY DISK$DEV005:[MLS] No MLSSUP DISK$DEV005:[MLS] No OAKLEY DISK$DEV005:[OAKLEY] Yes PARSONS DISK$U43:[PARSONS] Yes SIM DISK$DEV005:[SIM] Yes SIMSYS DISK$DEV005:[SIM] Yes SPRINTEN DISK$DEV005:[SPRINT] Yes SPRINTNE DISK$DEV005:[SPRINT] Yes SPRINTSE DISK$DEV005:[SPRINT] Yes STARR DISK$DEV005:[STARR] Yes SYSTEST_CLIG SYS$SYSROOT:[SYSTEST] No TASDEV DISK$DEV005:[TASDEV] Yes WARD DISK$U43:[WARD] Yes WSTARR DISK$DEV005:[TAS] No Thanks, Shaun.