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Conference 44.370::system_management

Title:	system management communications forum

Moderator:	CHEST::THOMPSON

Created:	Fri Mar 21 1986
Last Modified:	Thu Jul 08 1993
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	490
Total number of notes:	2018

84.0. "FUTURS backup/shutdown change" by RDGE00::THOMPSON () Tue Nov 03 1987 16:33

    The operators have asked forthe backups on FUTURS to begin earlier
    on Friday nights - starting at 5:30 instead of 7:00pm. The reason
    for this is that the full backups are running into the early hours
    of the following morning.
    
    The alternative way of taking full backups would be to split them
    over 2 consecutive nights. Whilst this would mean that the cluster
    could stay up for longer in prime time, file restoration procedures
    would become a little trickier.
    
    Unless anyone voices strong objections, I'm for letting the operators
    shut down at 5:30pm on Fridays.
    
    Comments in this notes conference please....

T.R	Title	User	Personal Name	Date	Lines
84.1	the first of many	RDGE00::GARLAND	Howard GARLAND, ADG, 830-6287	`Wed Nov 04 1987 08:21`	15
	>> Comments in this notes conference please.... Thankyou for acting on the replies to previous notes of a similar vein in the past, at least we have had some flexibility in our working hours since we got these enormous disk configurations. But for how long??? I repeat my reply to previous notes that it is quite some imposition on us to have machines SHUTDOWN at 17:30. Now that we have these huge disk configurations, maybe it is the time to reconsider the approach that is taken to backups, or the service we get from operations. Howard
84.2	Another comment.	RDGE00::RUSSELL	I want a BX 19 GTI 16V.	`Wed Nov 04 1987 09:20`	12
	>Unless anyone voices strong objections, I'm for letting the operators >shut down at 5:30pm on Fridays. I've got a better idea; shut it down at say 4:00pm so we cn go home early and miss the traffic..... Sounds good to me. Peter.
84.3	One more who objects	HEWIE::HAYWARD	Concerned of Tilehurst	`Wed Nov 04 1987 11:06`	15
	Re : .1 > I repeat my reply to previous notes that it is quite some imposition on us > to have machines SHUTDOWN at 17:30. Totally agree. > Now that we have these huge disk configurations, maybe it is the time to > reconsider the approach that is taken to backups, or the service we get > from operations. Coundn't have said it better ! Iain
84.4	And another	FOOT::TAYLOR		`Wed Nov 04 1987 14:04`	6
	I object , too. There must be some other solution than just pulling the plug! Janet
84.5	Isn't shut down an overkill?	GROYNE::HAYES	Ian Hayes, DTN 830 ext 4992	`Wed Nov 04 1987 14:36`	4
	As an aside: why do we have to lose the entire system just to take a backup of a data disk? Curious of M.R.
84.6	Thats a GOOD aside!	RDGE28::SMITH_I	Fast as a Mamba, Brave as a Lion!	`Wed Nov 04 1987 16:35`	6
	re : .5 Here here! Ian
84.7	Not FUTURS but same for ADG	RDGE00::ALFORD	Dragon Riders do it in between ....	`Wed Nov 04 1987 17:05`	10
	> Now that we have these huge disk configurations, maybe it is the time to > reconsider the approach that is taken to backups, or the service we get > from operations. The same applies to the ADG cluster which already shuts down at 5.30pm on Wednesday, it's very annoying since the evenings are usually the only time to get a reasonable response time from the machines !! Jane
84.8	HSC backups - here we come!	FOOT::THOMPSON		`Thu Nov 05 1987 13:29`	4
	OK - I get the message, you'd like to work on in the evenings. Apart from Jane who wants to work night shifts to get a reasonable response. I'll see if I can devise a new plan - a little more cunning perhaps.
84.9	Thanks Jerry :-)	GROYNE::HAYES	Ian Hayes, DTN 830 ext 4992	`Fri Nov 06 1987 13:11`	0