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Conference ilbbak::ibi_focus

Title:FOCUS, from INFORMATION BUILDERS
Moderator:ZAYIUS::BROUILLETTE
Created:Thu Feb 19 1987
Last Modified:Mon May 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:615
Total number of notes:1779

588.0. "performance on alpha????" by MERIDN::BUCKLEY (ski fast,take chances,die young) Wed Sep 07 1994 17:43

cross posted from alpha notes, please reply there as I not read this conference

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MERIDN::BUCKLEY "ski fast,take chances,die young"    20 lines  29-AUG-1994 14:12
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I have a customer migrating Focus (from Information Builders Inc, IBI) from
a 4 CPU Amdahl mainframe to a DEC 4710 running vms v6.1. When a few users are
running the performance is significantly better (twice as fast) then on the
mainframe but as users are added performance degrades to twice as bad as the
Amdahl with cpu 100% and queues near 10. Much of this can be attributed to the
4 cpu's on the mainframe but the sizing estimate for this machine was 25%
used with the current workload. We have attempted to tune the machine and IBI
has sent people to the site to analyze the application. After fighting some
PCA problems, Focus says that 14% of the cpu is in "their" code and about 80%
is in system space (details were lost in workaround of PCA problem). We will
run DECps system_pc reports later today to narrow down the problem but the
focus guru that I talked to said that "most of the alpha stuff is emulated
while it was compiled on the vax". The customer's focus procedures ARE poorly
written and performance CAN be improved by rewritting them but the customer
expects the FAST alpha box to shine and is currently disappointed.

Has anyone out there run IBI Focus in production on an Alpha?

How was performance and what tuning steps helped the most?
Dan Buckley, CT dc

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588.1FOCUS AXP OSF/1 questionsATYISA::61947::RIPOLLSt�phane RIPOLL, Paris PSCMon Sep 12 1994 07:1425
    I know that a release of FOCUS (the so-called "Controlled Release") is   
    now shipping on ALPHA. Can someone first confirm that it works fine ?

    Secondly, a question arises from both customer and partner about
    interoperability of FOCUS/OSF1/AXP with our IBM SNA gateway
    products to allow access from IBM terminals to a OSF/1 AXP
    plateform running FOCUS.

    IBI France states that this can only work with SNA gateways from
    UNISYS with which they seem to have a good partnership.

    A first technical analysis makes us think their should be no
    technical problems with our gateways, with an integration chain like :

	3270 -> Domain GWY --> MEPVT 			--> AXP OSF/1
			       TCP / IP services	    FOCUS
			       VAX/VMS

    Could someone tell me :
      
      - if there are references of FOCUS applications running in the
        technical environment described above ?
      - OR if there has been reports of technical problems in the
        past?
      - what is the status of our relationship with IBI ?