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Conference ilbbak::ibi_focus

Title:FOCUS, from INFORMATION BUILDERS
Moderator:ZAYIUS::BROUILLETTE
Created:Thu Feb 19 1987
Last Modified:Mon May 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:615
Total number of notes:1779

82.0. "Help with MFD's - PLEASE" by RDGCSS::GRAY (Home by the C) Wed Jun 22 1988 08:02

    Hello fellow focus users. I have a problem. I'm trying to access
    existing RMS files in order to produce reports. I thought that the
    best way to do this would be to use a variation of the example given
    in the FOCUS USERS MANUAL (Release 1.0 - Page 3-50). I entered a VERY 
    similar layout and did a 'check file' on it. This produced errors
    FOC207 and FOC209 (error in format and data value exceeds length spec).
    
    Have I got an out of date manual ?
    
    Also, I noticed, after running the IVP (ex cartest - install. guide)
    a MFD was created in my account (hold.mas) which looked not much like 
    any of the examples...
    
    Are the examples wrong or are some features undocumented ?
    
    I'm actually looking at FOCUS as a report facility for direct user
    control, but if someone like myself (an experienced analyst/programmer)
    is having so much trouble with such fundamental items... then God
    only knows what the users are going to make of it !
    
    Peter F. Gray
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82.1I should have known !RDGCSS::GRAYHome by the CThu Jun 23 1988 07:375
    Just in case anyone else has this (or similar) problems...
    
    FOCUS doesn't cope too well with TAB's in the MFD's.

82.2Not such a big deal..FR0002::DADDIECOJohn D'AddiecoThu Jun 23 1988 07:3942
    >... FOCUS USERS MANUAL (Release 1.0 - Page 3-50). ... 
    >Have I got an out of date manual ?
    
    Yes you do.  I believe IBI released manuals in 3 ring binders around
    April.  But don't let that bother you, IBI is very slow to revise
    the contents of existing sections of the manuals.
    
    >Also, I noticed, after running the IVP (ex cartest - install. guide)
    >a MFD was created in my account (hold.mas) which looked not much like 
    >any of the examples...
    
    ??? Can't help you here.
    
    >Are the examples wrong or are some features undocumented ?
    
    Some examples in the manual have been found to be incorrect.
    And IN GENERAL, IBI has left some features (but more often,
    limitations) of FOCUS undocumented.
    
    >I'm actually looking at FOCUS as a report facility for direct user
    >control, but if someone like myself (an experienced analyst/programmer)
    >is having so much trouble with such fundamental items... then God
    >only knows what the users are going to make of it !
    
    Users usually make a mess from the command line!  TABLETALK is the
    FOCUS facility that is best suited to end users.  Even with TABLETALK,
    a P/A is required to configure the environment in which to run
    tabletalk (master file descriptions, locations of db's, etc). Beyond
    that, I consider FOCUS as a tool for programmers.
    
    NOW... about your master:
    
    	-Is the RMS file indexed?
    	-Have you carefully checked the syntax of the description?
    	-Did you use tabs?
    	
    There are loads of things that could go wrong.  The master and a
    better description of the RMS file are required to decide.
    Good Luck!
    -John