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56.1 | AMID vs. Customer | HAMSTR::MURPHY | Sue Murphy MKO2-2/D14 dtn:264-0723 | Tue Jan 14 1992 17:31 | 48 |
| Hi Brian,
Let me see if I can help you with the multitude of issues raised
in your note. As you are aware, your Account Group's sets have two
types of customers. Those that you "blue-line" manage for an Industry
Account Portfolio where you receive certs credit only for the orders
your bring in from them.
The other type of customer included in your sets are those that
you manage blue-line AND red-line. In other words you get the certs
credit AS WELL AS the revenue. The revenue the sets receive from these
types of customers is what effects the set P&Ls.
The AMIDs you refer to as belonging to your sets should only be
the type of customer that you receive both certs AND revenue for. The
AMID reference file keeps track of AMID set assignment and yes we have
99% of our existing customers assigned to AMIDs and 98% of AMIDs
assigned to sets. Steve Carroll @264-0367 can provide you a copy of
the AMID reference file which is updated weekly. Steve will also take
requests for AMID changes via an established procedure also available
from Steve or the AVP Coordinator on staff to your AVP ( in your case
it is Roy Wicklund).
The Account Workbench utilizes the AMID reference file in most
of the available applications. If you find a discrepancy in a report
you may want to review the AMID refernce file to ensure the revenue
you feel you should be receiving can get there through an accurate
AMID reference file.
You are also correct that the AMs should be forecasting their
total business, both their certs only customers and their revenue and
certs customers, but keep in mind that the workbench will today only
give them performance reporting on their, revenue only, customers.
I also applaud your efforts to keep the reps focused on selling,
not internal reporting, but they should not even be concerned with
the items discussed. Sales reps are measured on certs only and the rep
receives certs for both types of customers and shouldn't care which
type of customer it is.
The rep should not be concerned about their managers revenue metric,
but should be focusing on customer satisfaction and bringing in as
many orders as possible based on Digital offering the best solution
to their needs. AMIDs and revenue verses certs only do not enter into
a sales reps PPP.
If you continue to have questions or need assistance in
straightening out your sets AMIDs please call me and or Steve Carroll.
Regards,
Sue
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56.2 | Thanks | EMASS::LANDRIGAN | | Thu Jan 30 1992 14:29 | 31 |
| Susan,
Thanks for the feedback. With the implementation of the Zip + 5 and SIC
code tables the vast majority of our AMID problems have been solved. The
remainder are accounts that are in the wrong set within our group and the
few accounts we are waiting to have transferred to our group from another
group within the Eastern States. I feel confident that Steve and our Finance
people will work this out.
Re: selling effort
Thanks once again and the sales reps are definitely focused here on certs
from all accounts. However this does bring up an interesting question we
have regarding the Account Set Manager's PPP. ;Here is the scenario...
One of our Account Set Managers has an account in his portfolio that has
locations in Illinois. He has not given budget and/or expense targets
to anyone in Illinois for the purpose of covering that portion of his
account. Approx. one month ago, a rep in Illinois closed a piece of
business with that account's Ill. location and certified an order. It
of course, showed up on the Account Set Manager's account workbench activity
both for certs and revenue (which is what we expected). However, it hasn't
shown up on his SMR reports to date. The question is "Should the local
Account Manager, because he owns the AMID number, get SMR credit for this
sale?"
Our local SMR rep is pursuing an answer through that organization but I was
wondering if you could give me a sense of how NMS was designed to address this
issue?
Thanks,
bl
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56.3 | SMR verses NMS | HAMSTR::MURPHY | Sue Murphy MKO2-2/D14 dtn:264-0723 | Fri Feb 07 1992 16:55 | 15 |
| re: 56.2
Brian,
No, the local AMs that "owns" the AMID for the business booked
in Illinois does not and should not see the SMR credit for that sale.
The local AMs should as you said, see the certs and revenue for that
AMID in the Account Workbench, but the Illinois sales rep and her
manager should and will receive the SMR credit as that is where the
business booked. NMS uses the eventual revenue from the Illinois
booking to impact the local AMs set P&L.
Please give me a call if you'd like to discuss further or
enter additional questions here and I will be happy to address.
Regards,
Sue
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56.4 | Another NMS related problem | TORREY::MAY_BR | It ain't the thing, it's the fling | Tue Mar 24 1992 15:28 | 40 |
|
I've run into an issue that I believe is a problem with NMS, and this
seems to be an appropriate place to try to get it resolved. However,
let me state up front that everyone involved is trying to do the right
thing for both the customer and Digital.
I sell to a large "blue line" account in AZ. I recently closed a sale
for a 6430 that had been sitting in my Account Set's (nee Unit's) Rotcon
inventory. I decided to sell the Rotcon because the customer needed it,
and I was trying to help get rid of some of our Rotcon. For this my
Account Set and Account Group Managers were quite happy.
When we were trying to price the system, we used a price from one of the
OMS systems. Apparently the listed price of 64XX systems has been rising
recently, especially compared to 65XX or 66XX technology or used
systems purchased through theRefurbished Equip.Group (REG). For example,
the minimumly configured 6430's price was listed at approx. $600K. A
6620, which is 2-3 times more powerful goes for about $400K, and a
6430 through REG goes for about $200K.
The problem is that Operations is forced to use the listed price
($600K) as the base price, and allowance from that. Since that price
is not close to market price, we must allowance the price of our system
to get it down to a fair market price. Needless to say, a $400K
allowance does not sit well with several people. To make matters
worse, the allowance shows up on my Blue Line manager's P&L, when the
system was never in his account.
We need someone to direct the product group that sets the pricing for
these essentially retired 6XXX systems (61XX,62XX,63XX, and 64XX) to
realistically price them, so we don't hold the different sales
organizations hostage to this allowance issue. I would not be surprised
to find out that some Rotcon is NOT being sold, because the cost centers
don't want to get hit with the allowance charges.
If anyone wants to talk to me about further details, send mail or call
me at DTN 566-4867.
Bruce
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56.5 | US Area Operations Issue | LANDO::RAYMOND | | Wed Mar 25 1992 10:56 | 14 |
| re. 56.4 Pricing for 6430 systems
This is NOT a product management issue. This is an Area Operations
issue. The US area did not raise the price of these older systems
they simply did not LOWER these prices when new models of the
VAX 6000 hardware were announced. Their rationale was that they
wanted to encourage customers to move to the newer equipment.
I believe that the Area also sets your allowance policies. Therefore
I would recommend that you discuss this situation with your area
operations contacts.
Richard Raymond
VAX 6000 Product Manager
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56.6 | field refurb model numbers? | RIPPLE::GRANT_JO | the just man justices | Wed Mar 25 1992 12:33 | 36 |
| re: .4, .5
I believe the concerns raised in .4 are very legitimate. And
.5's explanation - older technology prices not lowered in
order to make newer technology even more attractive - are
also legitimate. But it is not clear that Area Ops is going
to be able to change the situation via allowance policy.
The same problem may very well exist with other product lines
as well. If so, a broader solution is called for.
The sticking point seems to be the potential negative effect
of doing very large (percentage) allowances. If this is in
fact a problem it will manifest itself in all cases when
our CLP is very high in relation to true market value. Older
technology pricing can be handled via refurbished equipment.
A new model number with a lower CLP is established.
This pricing technique does not work for equipment being sold
in the field. And so I would be curious to know what objections
would be raised to establishing a "field refurb" program in which,
after appropriate refurbishment work in the field, a field refurbished
model number could then be assigned to the equipment we would like
to sell?
I can actually imagine a number of problems associated with
asset management accounting. But I wonder if such problems
would be insurmountable.
If a field refurbished model number could be established for
a piece of equipment, it would allow Digital to sell product
that might remain unsold due to constraints which (it is alleged)
exist under the current system.
Joel
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56.7 | This is a REAL problem... | KHUFU::EVENSON | Don Evenson @MWO DTN 446-2470 | Wed Mar 25 1992 16:18 | 12 |
| This is a real problem out here with rotational workstations. I have
had several pieces of rotation "sold" only to find out the account set
manager would rather sell the newer model new rather than rotation (at
exactly the same net price) because it looks better in NMS.
It doesn't help that we carry the rotation in a different cost center
from the NMS P&L manager so they don't feel the pain of NOT selling the
rotation.
This issue does need to be addressed or we will end up with lots of
old rotational equipment out here in the feild and no way of getting
revenue for it.
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