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53.1 | Win/Win if we want . . . | CAPNET::CROWTHER | Maxine 276-8226 | Fri Dec 20 1991 08:26 | 12 |
| Charlie - I agree. Your comment about Bob Hughes reading the file is a
telling one because in many conferences people are complaining because
senior management DOESN'T read the conference. I have seen no
publicity about this file and word of mouth doesn't do it. Perhaps the
moderators/Sales management should consider a mailing to Sales folks,
who get so much mail already, on the notesfile and how it should be
used as a vehicle for sharing and feedback.
How much more productive could we be if we shared our successes in a
notesfile where discussion and dialog would lead to the best possible
solutions for our problems, and the best possible audience for our
opportunities.
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53.2 | Commitment, Add-Value, Responsiveness ... | MRKTNG::MOLINE | | Fri Dec 20 1991 09:20 | 26 |
| Charlie and Maxine,
I believe that the major issue is that people just don't read the NOTES
conferences ... and I believe that it is due to the amount of time and
effort that the field people put into their jobs. We have to get the
word out and then we have to prove that it is an add-value resource for
them. One thing that I do is that I send people a quick directory of a
conference from time to time showing the latest subjects and replies.
This is a reminder that the Conference exists and it shows the reader
very quickly what is contained.
Other than that, its a matter of people changing behavior and making
important NOTES conferences a priority at least once a week. That can
come through encouragement, participation, and commitment by all of us
who want to make a positive contribution to the sales efforts in the
field.
One other thing that should be investigated is the responsiveness of
the network connection from the field offices. One of the fastest ways
to discourage participation is to have long delays between keystrokes.
The sales reps and support people cannot wait for 30-second response times.
Regards,
Bob
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53.3 | Yes, we have time, and we're here ... | SWAM2::MCCARTHY_LA | Martians are stealing my underwear | Fri Dec 20 1991 12:25 | 20 |
| I'm a field people and a mostly read-only follower of this conference.
I follow this conference to get pure, undiluted Bob Hughes. The Bob
that we get down here on the ground has been filtered, edited and
abridged by several layers of management, who, I'm sure, mean well. The
"specialization" memo is an excellent example. If not for this
conference I would have never seen or even heard of it. So, (with the
possible exception of this reply :-) I tend to keep my mouth shut
unless I have something useful to contribute.
There are lots of tools, etc. in place to handle "issues"; they must be
working, too, since so few make it here. I'm grateful
that this conference, generally speaking, has not devolved into a
"whining" conference or another outlet for content-free marketing hype.
I also appreciate that there isn't a lot of idle chit-chat going on
(again, with the possible exception of this note string :-).
Larry,
Formerly Los Angeles Accounts Group
Formerly EIS
(Current birdcage perch unknown.... :-)
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53.4 | Communication Available | HAMSTR::MURPHY | Sue Murphy MKO2-2/D14 dtn:264-0723 | Fri Dec 20 1991 18:42 | 136 |
| Thanks for your interest in getting more interaction within the US
Sales and Service Conference. The following is one of many
communications that have been sent to the field. If your neck of
the woods has not seen these, please do forward on.
I N T E R O F F I C E M E M O R A N D U M
Date: 22-May-1991 02:49pm EST
From: Susan H Murphy @MKO
MURPHY.SUE
Dept: National Accounts
Tel No: 264-0723
TO: See Below
Subject: "U.S. SALES AND SERVICE" VAXNOTES CONFERENCE
Attached is the announcement of the "U.S. SALES AND SERVICE" VAXnotes
conference. To ensure the validity of answers provided, you are being asked to
represent your function as a member of the "VAXnotes Answer Team." Your
membership will require you to add the "U.S. SALES AND SERVICE" conference to
your VAXnotes account. We are asking you to periodically access the conference
and respond to questions and comments. You may also be contacted periodically
for advice and counsel on how to handle questions needing official
policy answers.
Thank you for your support. We will be looking for your registration entry in
the "U.S. SALES AND SERVICE" Vaxnotes conference.
I N T E R O F F I C E M E M O R A N D U M
Date: 15-May-1991 02:57pm EST
From: Susan H Murphy @MKO
MURPHY.SUE
Dept: National Accounts
Tel No: 264-0723
TO: See Below
Subject: "U.S. SALES AND SERVICE" VAXNOTES AVAILABLE
TO: Level 2 Sales Mgrs
AVPs
Sales Support
EIS
CS
Admin
OPS
*************************************************************************
PLEASE FORWARD THIS INFORMATION ACROSS YOUR ORGANIZATION TO ALLOW FULL
PARTICIPATION.
*************************************************************************
May 20th marks the opening of a new VAXnotes conference titled "U.S. SALES AND
SERVICE." As we near the beginning of a new fiscal year at Digital, we have
the opportunity to participate in a new way of managing our company with the
entrepreneurial spirit fostered by the New Management System (NMS) and
Account-Based Management Structure (AMS).
The changes will generate many good questions. The answers need to be
communicated and understood at all levels and functions of the organization
for there to be successful implementation of NMS and AMS within Digital.
There are many methods of communications available, but your particular
question may not have received a response thus far. The "U.S. SALES AND
SERVICE" VAXnotes conference has been created to capture those outstanding
comments and those unasked and unanswered questions. The VAXnotes conference
will be moderated by U.S. Sales Headquarters, with representation from all
Account Team functions.
Please feel free to participate by using one of Digital's unique system
strengths -- VAXnotes. Here's how:
1. Access VAXnotes from DCL (the "$" prompt)
Type NOTES <cr>* *<cr> = carriage return
e.g. $ NOTES <cr>
2. Add the "U.S. Sales and Service" conference to your personal notebook
At the "Notes>" prompt, type the following command:
Notes> ADD ENTRY GERBIL::US_SALES_SERVICE <cr>
3. To participate in the "U.S. Sales and Service" conference
At the "Notes>" prompt, type the following command:
Notes> OPEN US_SALES_SERVICE <cr>
It will take a few moments to access the conference through the network.
The first UNSEEN (UNREAD) note in the conference will appear on your
screen. A carriage return will page you through the note and subsequent
replies.
To view all notes available, type DIR at the "Notes>" prompt.
To read a given note, at the Notes> prompt, simply type the number that
appears in the far left column, and press carriage return.
To reply to a note you are reading, type REPLY at the "Notes>" prompt.
VAXnotes will open up a window for you, where you can enter in your text.
When finished, type Ctrl Z (by holding down the CTRL key and pressing the
Z key at the same time). VAXnotes will close the edit session and ask
for a title. Enter a title for your note, and press the carriage return
key. VAXnotes will then tell you your note is complete, and ask if you
would like to enter it into the conference. Type "Y" to enter the reply
or "N" to not enter the reply.
Regards.
Also, as co-moderator of this conference I do encourage additional
questions or comments on issues facing the field, especially related
to AMS or NMS. Bob Hughes does see all questions, comments, and answers
not someone with access to his account. There is also a defined answer
team from other field functions that help with specific questions. We
hope that all questions are answered that need a "headquarter" type
answer, in a timely manner, as the conference is accessed daily to check
for questions. Please ask again if you feel the answer has yet to be
answered fully or to your particular need.
Look forward to more interaction after the holidays.
Happy Holidays!
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53.5 | Use Bob's DVN | VIRGO::KEATING | | Mon Dec 30 1991 14:41 | 3 |
| Sue, why not have bob mention the notes file during his monthly Sales
Focus DVN? I know it is widely viewed, and people will get the
message. tjk
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53.6 | Yes, it IS busy out here....! | SWAM2::KELLER_FR | | Tue Jan 07 1992 00:47 | 22 |
| re.2: You're right; we field people have even less time now than before
to read something that isn't directly related to satisfying a customer
need. Before the last field-nucing took place I had 50+ accounts and a
1.4M budget; now I have 100+ accounts and a 3.4M budget and far fewer
Support people and others (proposal team, etc.) to help out. So reading
this notes file is an occasional thing just to tune in on some of the
other real things (i.e. actual field things and not marketing hype)
that are going on elsewhere. Of course I often wonder at the frequency
with which some people seem to actively participate. I hope they're
watching on a window of their workstation while they do their regular
work (I don't have that luxury; my field-Sales-standard VT100 doesn't
have that feature yet....!). But I am happy that some do take the time
to share their opinions and experiences, and contribute to the
discussions which attempt to work the bugs out of ideas intended to
"make DEC work" even better. And knowing that RCH really is at the
other end is encouraging and hopefully won't inhibit anyone to speak
out honestly.
Ciao, and GOOD SELLING!
Fred
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53.7 | Thanks for the Feedback | GERBIL::HUGHES | Bob Hughes dtn:264-SELL MKO2-2/A14 | Thu Jan 09 1992 15:10 | 9 |
| Reference Note 53.3.
Thanks for the feedback! It's been said that 25% of any communication
is lost in every level of management (4) and 50% is lost if it goes
West of I-495.
I'm happy you're getting some of it!
rch
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53.8 | Suggestions Wanted | HAMSTR::MURPHY | Sue Murphy MKO2-2/D14 dtn:264-0723 | Tue Jan 14 1992 16:47 | 9 |
| Thanks for the suggestion to include reference to this conference in
one of Bob's Sales Focus DVNs. Are there any other suggestions anyone
may have to create this conference as a first place a sales rep or
field person may turn to find an answer to AMS or NMS questions? Bob
has recently asked if we should continue with the conference if it is
not addressing its original goals of answering questions the field has
been having trouble getting answers to.
Look forward to your suggestions.
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53.9 | | MADWT::HENDERSON | Another Casualty of Applied Metaphysics | Wed Jan 15 1992 18:25 | 30 |
| Since I started this line of discussion I will take a shot at proposing
solutions. I was a member of the District Workstation Team conference and
much of my experience with this type of conference is from there.
1. Get the word out. Sales Update, Sales Flash and DVN's
2. Make sure people who want to participate but don't know how have an
easy way to learn (publish a users guide)
3. Establish a clear goal for the conference. I would include, in addition to
NMS and AMS the ability to discuss any and all sales issues that affect
our ability to get sales (we are often our own worst enemy), or deliver on
the promises that resulted in sales.
4. Commit to responding to queries within a certain period of time (DWT was
24hrs). The objective is not necessarily to answer ever question quickly but
to acknowledge that effort is uderway to find an answer or resolve the issue.
5. Allow disenting opinions. If it truly a goal of the conference to foster
open and frank discusions (that result in feedback to upper management since
the file is monitored by Sales HQ) then it is imperitive that all points
of view be encouraged, acknowledged and respected. If there is even the hint
of censorship (execpt for corporate policy violations) then forget the whole
thing.
6. Publish the answers to DVN questions here. In fact this should be a regular
and early posting for announcements made by Sales HQ.
7. Pose questions and solicit answers (what if we changed xyz policy to abc).
8. Encourage ABU's, PBU's, IBU's, etc. to pose questions for input and to
identify individuals who will respond to questions and issues brought up in
the file.
9. Don't be overly restrictive of note content. remember every normal
distribution has a few items that are over 3 standard deviations from the
mean.
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53.10 | | JMPSRV::MICKOL | Greetings from Rochester, NY | Wed Jan 15 1992 19:41 | 11 |
| Re: <<< Note 53.9 by MADWT::HENDERSON >>>
I agree 100% with the previous reply. Find ways to encourage the use of this
valuable conference; don't write it off. This is one of the very few ways we
have to directly communicate with upper management.
Regards,
Jim Mickol
Xerox Acct Team
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53.11 | Good Suggestions | HAMSTR::MURPHY | Sue Murphy MKO2-2/D14 dtn:264-0723 | Fri Jan 17 1992 15:39 | 16 |
| RE: Note 53.9
Thank you again for your excellent suggestions. Right off the bat
we will use your first suggestion of promoting the conference during a
Sales Focus DVN. Please tune in to the next Sales Focus DVN on January
20th at 1:00 pm (EST). We have made arrangements to have instructions
on how to get into the conference during the DVN. We are also
investigating how to post the questions and answers from the DVN in
the conference. Your other suggestions are well taken and we have tried
to do just what you suggest, with renewed interest and activity the
level of information provided and internal use by non-sales groups can only
get better. We will rely on you to continue to post questions and
issues that the field needs additional help or information on.
Thanks again.
Sue
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53.12 | | LURE::CERLING | God doesn't believe in atheists | Mon Jan 20 1992 17:22 | 17 |
| I must have missed it! I sat through the DVN (maybe missed some of the
`fill' that came before Bob came on, but not much). I heard Bob
mention this conference once. And then it was part of a longer answer,
so if you missed the notes conference phrase, you missed the
advertisement, such that it was.
A shame, seeing that the DVN was on education. It seems the audience
should be been educated about this.
A suggestion...Do not place `advertisements' for the conference before
or after Bob's and guests' messages. Make it part of their message.
Looking around the room during the DVN, people are not paying attention
to the screen until Bob comes on and people walk out during the
question and answer period. If you want to get a message out, you are
going to have to have Bob state it.
tgc
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