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Conference ufhis::siemens_communication

Title:Siemens Connectivity
Notice:FTSIE Contact is Michael Eisenhut @MUC 865-1487
Moderator:UFHIS::MEISENHU
Created:Tue Aug 30 1988
Last Modified:Mon Feb 19 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:195
Total number of notes:512

187.0. "FTSIE-E-FRLIE after upgrade to V2.0" by EEMELI::VIRNES (Jarmo Virnes) Mon Aug 29 1994 11:50

	Hi,

	The following error/event messages started to occur after
	upgrade to DECnet/OSI 5.6B + ECO5 and FTSIE 2.0 on
	OpenVMS 5.5-2 system: (FTSIE runs over CLNS network service,
	null internet and TP4) 

	%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 22-AUG-1994 16:42:28.88 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%
	Message fron user FTSIE$SERVER on MTT
	%FTSIE-E-FRLIE, internal error 131

       	%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 22-AUG-1994 16:43:39.92 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
	Message from user SYSYTEM on MTT
	Event: Remote Transport Disconnection from LOCAL:.MTT
	OSI Transport Local NSAP 49FF00AA000400030421 Remote NSAP
	49FF00080006C1000121
		at: 1994-08-22-16:43:38.180+03:00Iinf
		Reason=Mismatched references
		...
		...  (Uid stuff)

       	These two OPCOM messages follow each other every time.

	The remote end is a Siemens system. This event occures about 
	once per day. It does not seriously affect production
        but the customer is suspicious what is happening at the time of
	error.

	Addition to that we get about 20 times/day following
	event:

       	%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 23-AUG-1994 12:42:45.46 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
	Message from user SYSYTEM on MTT
	Event: Remote Transport Disconnection from LOCAL:.MTT
	OSI Transport Local NSAP 49FF00AA000400030421 Remote NSAP
	49FF00080006C1000121
		at: 1994-08-23-12:42:45.220+03:00Iinf
		Reason=Reason not specified
		...
		...  (Uid stuff)

       	There is not FTSIE error message releated to this.
	Is this a normal disconnection from the remote system or
	an indication of some kind of problem??

	I'm not very familiar with FTSIE so advices are very
	much appreciated.

		Regards Jarmo


	


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187.1A few suggestionsBIKINI::DITEDECnet/OSI makes ~~~~ OK!Tue Aug 30 1994 15:3329
Jarmo,


The message %FTSIE-E-FRLIE, internal error 131 comes from the depths of the 
Siemens protocol state M/c. It is usually asscociated with a partner resetting
a session that has previously been interrupted.



The mismatched references problem looks like an OSI Transport failure.
If you do a CTF trace one should be able to see who is responsible for the
problem.

>      	%%%%%%%%%% OPCOM 23-AUG-1994 12:42:45.46 %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>	Message from user SYSYTEM on MTT
>	Event: Remote Transport Disconnection from LOCAL:.MTT
>	OSI Transport Local NSAP 49FF00AA000400030421 Remote NSAP
>	49FF00080006C1000121
>		at: 1994-08-23-12:42:45.220+03:00Iinf
>		Reason=Reason not specified
>		...
>		...  (Uid stuff)


Again to see the reason for this problem we would require an OSI Transport
trace.

regards
John
187.2I'll get the traceEEMELI::VIRNESJarmo Virnes MCS Finland/EastWed Aug 31 1994 10:138
                      
    
    Thank you  for a rapid answer. I'll try to get CTF Trace from
    OSI Transport at the time of the events.
    
    I'll be back soon.
    
    			jarmo
187.3More informationEEMELI::VIRNESJarmo Virnes MCS Finland/EastMon Sep 12 1994 16:22115
Hi again,

Here is more information for FTSIE-E-FRLIE problem (First OPCOM messages
    and then CTF Trace):

%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   1-SEP-1994 08:18:00.21  %%%%%%%%%%%
Logfile time stamp

%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   1-SEP-1994 09:03:31.10  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user FTSIE$SERVER on MTT
%FTSIE-E-FRLIE, internal error 131

%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   1-SEP-1994 09:03:35.50  %%%%%%%%%%%
Message from user SYSTEM on MTT
Event: Remote Transport Disconnection from: Node LOCAL:.MTT OSI Transport Local
        at: 1994-09-01-09:03:27.290+03:00Iinf
        Reason=Mismatched references
        eventUid   927499A0-C56B-11CD-8004-AA0004000304
        entityUid  DD6A7C21-BF73-11CD-8004-AA0004000304
        streamUid  C7F67680-BF66-11CD-8002-AA0004000304

%%%%%%%%%%%  OPCOM   1-SEP-1994 09:18:01.40  %%%%%%%%%%%
Logfile time stamp
                

CTF Trace at the time of above error looks following:

(Trace was taken by command CTF>START OSITP LSP * RSP *
and analyzed by command CTF> ANALYZE/FULL/OUT=ANA_6.TXT)

Trace started on  1-SEP-1994 04:04:19.16  Analyzed on 12-SEP-1994 15:38:46.15
Trace File CTF$TRACE.DAT;6              Output File <SYSMGR.STEEL>ANA_6.TXT;1
-----------+----+-----+<---------------------------------------------------------------->+------------------------------------------
    Time   |Evnt|Data |                  OSI Transport Analysis Routine                 ||Data
hh mm ss cc|    |Size |                                                                 ||
-----------+----+-----+<---------------------------------------------------------------->+------------------------------------------
                      |     Li: 0B          ROA: 00            Extended Format           |
                      |     Destination Ref: 0069                                        |
                      |     TPDU Number 00000006    Class 04       EOT                   |
                      |     (C3)  Checksum :                         053E                |
08:44:11.79|Rx  |   16|                          Type: DT                                | 04 01 00 06
                      |     Li: 0B          ROA: 00            Extended Format           |
                      |     Destination Ref: 0069                                        |
                      |     TPDU Number 00000006    Class 04       EOT                   |
                      |     (C3)  Checksum :                         053E                |
08:44:11.80|  Tx|   14|                          Type: AK                                |
                      |     Li: 0D      Yr-Tu-Nr: 00000007   Credit: 0004                |
                      |     Destination Ref: 2997                                        |
                      |     Class 4         Extended Format                              |
                      |     (C3)  Checksum :                         9769                |
08:44:13.48|  Tx|   11|                          Type: DR                                |
                      |     Li: 0A                                                    
                      |     Source Ref: 0069       Destination Ref: 2997                 |
                      |     Reason: 80                                                   |
                      |     - Normal disconnect initiated by session entity              |
                      |     (C3)  Checksum :                         48BC                |
08:44:13.48|Rx  |   10|                          Type: DC                                |
                      |     Li: 09                                                       |
                      |     Source Ref: 2997       Destination Ref: 0069                 |
                      |     (C3)  Checksum :                         B491                |
09:03:27.29|  Tx|   41|                          Type: CC                                |
                      |     Li: 28      Credit: 04                                       |
                      |     Source Ref: 006A       Destination Ref: 2A97                 |
                      |     Class 04    No Flow Control   Extended Format                |
                      |     (C2)  Called Tsap :         [���@@@                         |
                      |     (C1)  Caller Tsap :         ������@@                         |
                      |     (C0)  Tpdu Size :                         1024               |
                      |     (C3)  Checksum :                         DF88                |
                      |     (C6)  Additional Options :               00                  |
                      |     (85)  Acknowledge :                      1000 ms             |
09:03:27.29|Rx  |   11|                          Type: DR                                |
                      |     Li: 0A                                                       |
                      |     Li: 0A                                                       |
                      |     Source Ref: 2A97       Destination Ref: 006A                 |
                      |     Reason: 84                                                   |
                      |     - Mismatched references                                      |
                      |     (C3)  Checksum :                         D925                |
09:03:27.30|  Tx|   10|                          Type: DC                                |
                      |     Li: 09                                                       |
                      |     Source Ref: 006A       Destination Ref: 2A97                 |
                      |     (C3)  Checksum :                         FA49                |
09:05:18.66|  Tx|   41|                          Type: CC                                |
                      |     Li: 28      Credit: 04                                       |
                      |     Source Ref: 006B       Destination Ref: 2B97                 |
                      |     Class 04    No Flow Control   Extended Format                |
                      |     (C2)  Called Tsap :         [���@@@                         |
                      |     (C1)  Caller Tsap :         ������@@                         |
                      |     (C0)  Tpdu Size :                         1024               |
                      |     (C3)  Checksum :                         A4C1                |
                      |     (C6)  Additional Options :               00                  |
<FF>
CTF V1.0-00                                                       Page 435
Trace started on  1-SEP-1994 04:04:19.16  Analyzed on 12-SEP-1994 15:38:46.15
Trace File CTF$TRACE.DAT;6              Output File <SYSMGR.STEEL>ANA_6.TXT;1
-----------+----+-----+<---------------------------------------------------------------->+------------------------------------------
    Time   |Evnt|Data |                  OSI Transport Analysis Routine                 ||Data
hh mm ss cc|    |Size |                                                                 ||
-----------+----+-----+<---------------------------------------------------------------->+------------------------------------------
                      |     (85)  Acknowledge :                      1000 ms             |
09:05:18.68|Rx  |   14|                          Type: AK                                |
                      |     Li: 0D      Yr-Tu-Nr: 00000000   Credit: 0000                |
                      |     Destination Ref: 006B                                        |
                      |     Class 4         Extended Format



Any suggestions what is going on here?

There are not any Trace Records during time period while we get those
"Reason=Reason Not Specified" Events I mentioned in .0
Any idea why not?

		Regards

			Jarmo