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Conference ufhis::siemens_communication

Title:Siemens Connectivity
Notice:FTSIE Contact is Michael Eisenhut @MUC 865-1487
Moderator:UFHIS::MEISENHU
Created:Tue Aug 30 1988
Last Modified:Mon Feb 19 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:195
Total number of notes:512

165.0. "large filetransfer siemens->VMS does not work" by MUNICH::SCHALLER (Eva Schaller *DSC* 895-6146) Tue Aug 03 1993 12:14

    
    My customer uses FTSIE 1.4 to transfer data from SIemens to VAX
    (FTSIE$CMD is 1.4-01) 
    This works fine as long as the files are small. If he tries however to
    transfer files of about 60000 blocks, the VAX doesn't write to disk,
    but buffered IO and CPU time is increasing. It also stops the transfer
    after some time with different error messages, e.g.
    - remote file inconsistant, -disconnected from remote system, -file
    accessed on channel
    
    This happens only, when he starts the transfer at the VMS side; if he
    sends from the SIemens side, the transfer seems to be ok. (he compared
    the first and the last record of the file with the original one)
    
    Before I recommend to upgrade to FTSIE 1.4-E or 2.0 I wanted to know
    if this is a known error  or what I could do to analyze it further.
    
    I have asked him to get a trace with "osi_transport port *", but didn't
    see anything abnormal (DTs with EOT, AK, and DR with normal disconnect
    initiated by session, DC)
    I have compared it with a successful transfer trace, but did not see
    anything significant. I have the traces available, if anybody is
    interested.
    
    Any hints are very welcome
    
    thanks in advance 
    eva 
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165.1Upgrade to V1.4E / V2.0BIKINI::DITEDECnet/OSI makes ~~~~ OK!Tue Aug 03 1993 13:4812
Hi Eva,

	your going back a long long time.... ;-)

The SSB Version V1.4 is known to contain many problems - not all have been 
documented.

Therefore I would recommend that you upgrade to V1.4E or better still 
get V2.0.

regards
John
165.21.4e did not helpMUNICH::SCHALLEREva Schaller *DSC* 895-6146Thu Aug 05 1993 11:2420
    
    John,
    
    we have upgraded to 1.4E, but it changed nothing.
    Small files (up to 10000 around) work fine; larger ones (60000 and
    200000 blocks) always fail as described in .0
    
    All transfered files are created by the same application, so the file
    structure shouldn't matter. Another indication is the fact, that it
    works, if the transfer is initiated by the Siemens system.
    BTW, the file is SEQ, VAR up to 4000 bytes.
    
    Is it possible, that the buffering is made different dependent on
    the initiating side? Maybe we have to increase some buffers/params
    (VOTS; FTSIE)
    Any further suggestions?
    
    thanks eva
    
    the 
165.3Some more suggestions....BIKINI::DITEDECnet/OSI makes ~~~~ OK!Fri Aug 06 1993 14:2846
Eva,

    
.2>    we have upgraded to 1.4E, but it changed nothing.
.2>    Small files (up to 10000 around) work fine; larger ones (60000 and
.2>    200000 blocks) always fail as described in .0

.0>    It stops the transfer after some time with different error messages, e.g.
.0>    - remote file inconsistant, -disconnected from remote system, -file
.0>    accessed on channel>    

From the last two messages here it could well be a case that the remote system 
disconnected the transport link. This one would have to investigate further 
using the trace files. 

.2>    All transfered files are created by the same application, so the file
.2>    structure shouldn't matter. Another indication is the fact, that it
.2>    works, if the transfer is initiated by the Siemens system.
.2>    BTW, the file is SEQ, VAR up to 4000 bytes.

More important, what are the Siemens file charactersistics (type, record length
etc,) that the VAX is trying to fetch. 
 
Remember that there is a record size restriction of 4000 octets using 
FORMAT=TEXT or =BINARY 

.2>    Is it possible, that the buffering is made different dependent on
.2>    the initiating side? Maybe we have to increase some buffers/params
.2>    (VOTS; FTSIE)
.2>    Any further suggestions?

System Parameter 	Minimum System Requirements
GBLPAGES 		1500
GBLSECTIONS		  10
MAXBUF			4096
INTSTKPAGES		   3

Ensure that you run your tests in synchronous mode. You'll then be able to see
exactly whether the break in transmission was caused by FTSIE or SNI?

John

PS> I'll be out of the office till the 02/09/1993.

If you have to escalate this problem please remember to give us the details
of the DCAM and the FT-BS2000 version.