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| Title: | Siemens Connectivity |
| Notice: | FTSIE Contact is Michael Eisenhut @MUC 865-1487 |
| Moderator: | UFHIS::MEISENHU |
|
| Created: | Tue Aug 30 1988 |
| Last Modified: | Mon Feb 19 1996 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 195 |
| Total number of notes: | 512 |
154.0. "MRX over Ethernet with Siemens" by ROMTSS::MARTIRE () Wed Feb 03 1993 10:27
CROSS-POSTED in FORTY2::MAILBUS
I'm trying to connect to a Siemens via MRX over Ethernet.
The Siemens is running CCP-LAN2 that supports ISO 8073 class 4 protocol.
The Siemens specialist asked me to exchange only Ethernet addresses
of the two machines, so I tried to communicate using "Null Internet".
After a lot of tries, I passed to "Internet" but the Siemens specialist
who is new to OSI (me too of course...) could not give me any hint to
build the NSAP address (more precisely the DSP).
Can anyone tell me:
1. Does Siemens CCP-LAN2 support "Null Internet" protocol?
2. If I must use "Internet" what are the Siemens defaults (pre-DSP,
area, SEL or whatever) that allow me to create a NSAP? (I've done
some testing using DEC defaults and other casual values with no
results)
3. Do Siemens TSAP default to NULL?
4. Can anyone post a working MRX configuration with a Siemens (I've
already spent a lot of time and a further delay on the project
would upset the Client.
Thanks in advance,
Piero.
PS. VMS 5.5-1, DECnet VAX Extensions (pathched), MRX 2.2-003
PPS. Of course I could have made some mistakes in setting up the VAX
configuration so I attach the trace at ROUTING and TRANSPORT level
of the "Null Internet" connection. The trace of TRANSPORT of the
"Internet" connection is almost exactly the same (apart from the
obvious things).
CTF V1.0-00 Page 1
Trace started on 1-FEB-1993 18:14:09.34 Analyzed on 1-FEB-1993 18:15:22.19
Trace File [SYSMGR]TRACCIA_ROUT.DAT;1 Output File [SYSMGR]TRACCIA_ROUT.TXT;1
-----------+----+-----+----------------- Routing Packet Header ----------------+----------------------------------------------------
Time |Evnt|Data | |Data
hh mm ss cc| |Size | |
-----------+----+-----+--------------------------------------------------------+----------------------------------------------------
18:14:09.34|Rx | 33|Type: Incomplete IP datagram | 0A 49 FF 00 08 00 14 81 66 F6 21 0A 49 00 40 08 00
| | 2B F0 34 26 21 00 09 80 00 00 55 00 00 E0 01 81
18:14:09.34| Tx| 11| Type: 00 | 00 09 80 00 00 55 00 00 E0 01 81
| Protocol ID: 00, Length: 09, Version: 80 |
| *** Invalid NPDU Version/Protocol ID Extension *** |
18:14:10.21|Rx | 69| Type: IP datagram | 31 2F 2F 56 31 2E 30 2E 30 85 02 03 E8 C0 01 0A C1
|Version: 00, IHL: 0A, TOS: 49, Total length FF00 | 04 54 53 41 50 C3 02 CE 4D C6 01 02
|Ident: 0800, Flags: 00, Offset: 1481, TTL: 66 |
|Protocol: F6 ( Unknown ), Checksum: 210A |
|Src: 73.0.64.8, Dst: 0.43.240.52 |
| Options |
|Type: 26 Unknown 2DE400005600420111303031322F313031312F2|
| |
18:14:10.21| Tx| 47| Type: 00 | 00 2D E4 00 00 56 00 42 01 11 30 30 31 32 2F 31 30
| Protocol ID: 00, Length: 2D, Version: E4 | 31 31 2F 2F 56 31 2E 30 2E 30 85 02 03 E8 C0 01 0A
| *** Invalid NPDU Version/Protocol ID Extension *** | C1 04 54 53 41 50 C3 02 CE 4D C6 01 02
18:14:15.24|Rx | 69| Type: IP datagram | 31 2F 2F 56 31 2E 30 2E 30 85 02 03 E8 C0 01 0A C1
|Version: 00, IHL: 0A, TOS: 49, Total length FF00 | 04 54 53 41 50 C3 02 CE 4D C6 01 02
|Ident: 0800, Flags: 00, Offset: 1481, TTL: 66 |
|Protocol: F6 ( Unknown ), Checksum: 210A |
|Src: 73.0.64.8, Dst: 0.43.240.52 |
| Options |
|Type: 26 Unknown 2DE400005600420111303031322F313031312F2|
| |
18:14:15.24| Tx| 47| Type: 00 | 00 2D E4 00 00 56 00 42 01 11 30 30 31 32 2F 31 30
| Protocol ID: 00, Length: 2D, Version: E4 | 31 31 2F 2F 56 31 2E 30 2E 30 85 02 03 E8 C0 01 0A
| *** Invalid NPDU Version/Protocol ID Extension *** | C1 04 54 53 41 50 C3 02 CE 4D C6 01 02
18:14:15.84|Rx | 33|Type: Incomplete IP datagram | 0A 49 FF 00 08 00 14 81 66 F6 21 0A 49 00 40 08 00
| | 2B F0 34 26 21 00 09 80 00 00 54 00 00 E0 01 81
18:14:15.84| Tx| 11| Type: 00 | 00 09 80 00 00 54 00 00 E0 01 81
| Protocol ID: 00, Length: 09, Version: 80 |
| *** Invalid NPDU Version/Protocol ID Extension *** |
18:14:20.24|Rx | 69| Type: IP datagram | 31 2F 2F 56 31 2E 30 2E 30 85 02 03 E8 C0 01 0A C1
|Version: 00, IHL: 0A, TOS: 49, Total length FF00 | 04 54 53 41 50 C3 02 CE 4D C6 01 02
|Ident: 0800, Flags: 00, Offset: 1481, TTL: 66 |
|Protocol: F6 ( Unknown ), Checksum: 210A |
|Src: 73.0.64.8, Dst: 0.43.240.52 |
| Options |
|Type: 26 Unknown 2DE400005600420111303031322F313031312F2|
| |
18:14:20.24| Tx| 47| Type: 00 | 00 2D E4 00 00 56 00 42 01 11 30 30 31 32 2F 31 30
| Protocol ID: 00, Length: 2D, Version: E4 | 31 31 2F 2F 56 31 2E 30 2E 30 85 02 03 E8 C0 01 0A
| *** Invalid NPDU Version/Protocol ID Extension *** | C1 04 54 53 41 50 C3 02 CE 4D C6 01 02
18:14:25.24|Rx | 69| Type: IP datagram | 31 2F 2F 56 31 2E 30 2E 30 85 02 03 E8 C0 01 0A C1
|Version: 00, IHL: 0A, TOS: 49, Total length FF00 | 04 54 53 41 50 C3 02 CE 4D C6 01 02
|Ident: 0800, Flags: 00, Offset: 1481, TTL: 66 |
|Protocol: F6 ( Unknown ), Checksum: 210A |
|Src: 73.0.64.8, Dst: 0.43.240.52 |
| Options |
|Type: 26 Unknown 2DE400005600420111303031322F313031312F2|
| |
18:14:25.24| Tx| 47| Type: 00 | 00 2D E4 00 00 56 00 42 01 11 30 30 31 32 2F 31 30
| Protocol ID: 00, Length: 2D, Version: E4 | 31 31 2F 2F 56 31 2E 30 2E 30 85 02 03 E8 C0 01 0A
CTF V1.0-00 Page 2
Trace started on 1-FEB-1993 18:14:09.34 Analyzed on 1-FEB-1993 18:15:22.19
Trace File [SYSMGR]TRACCIA_ROUT.DAT;1 Output File [SYSMGR]TRACCIA_ROUT.TXT;1
-----------+----+-----+----------------- Routing Packet Header ----------------+----------------------------------------------------
Time |Evnt|Data | |Data
hh mm ss cc| |Size | |
-----------+----+-----+--------------------------------------------------------+----------------------------------------------------
| *** Invalid NPDU Version/Protocol ID Extension *** | C1 04 54 53 41 50 C3 02 CE 4D C6 01 02
18:14:29.34|Rx | 33|Type: Incomplete IP datagram | 0A 49 FF 00 08 00 14 81 66 F6 21 0A 49 00 40 08 00
| | 2B F0 34 26 21 00 09 80 00 00 55 00 00 E0 01 81
18:14:29.34| Tx| 11| Type: 00 | 00 09 80 00 00 55 00 00 E0 01 81
| Protocol ID: 00, Length: 09, Version: 80 |
| *** Invalid NPDU Version/Protocol ID Extension *** |
18:14:30.24|Rx | 69| Type: IP datagram | 31 2F 2F 56 31 2E 30 2E 30 85 02 03 E8 C0 01 0A C1
|Version: 00, IHL: 0A, TOS: 49, Total length FF00 | 04 54 53 41 50 C3 02 CE 4D C6 01 02
|Ident: 0800, Flags: 00, Offset: 1481, TTL: 66 |
|Protocol: F6 ( Unknown ), Checksum: 210A |
|Src: 73.0.64.8, Dst: 0.43.240.52 |
| Options |
|Type: 26 Unknown 2DE400005600420111303031322F313031312F2|
| |
18:14:30.24| Tx| 47| Type: 00 | 00 2D E4 00 00 56 00 42 01 11 30 30 31 32 2F 31 30
| Protocol ID: 00, Length: 2D, Version: E4 | 31 31 2F 2F 56 31 2E 30 2E 30 85 02 03 E8 C0 01 0A
| *** Invalid NPDU Version/Protocol ID Extension *** | C1 04 54 53 41 50 C3 02 CE 4D C6 01 02
18:14:35.24|Rx | 69| Type: IP datagram | 31 2F 2F 56 31 2E 30 2E 30 85 02 03 E8 C0 01 0A C1
|Version: 00, IHL: 0A, TOS: 49, Total length FF00 | 04 54 53 41 50 C3 02 CE 4D C6 01 02
|Ident: 0800, Flags: 00, Offset: 1481, TTL: 66 |
|Protocol: F6 ( Unknown ), Checksum: 210A |
|Src: 73.0.64.8, Dst: 0.43.240.52 |
| Options |
|Type: 26 Unknown 2DE400005600420111303031322F313031312F2|
| |
18:14:35.24| Tx| 47| Type: 00 | 00 2D E4 00 00 56 00 42 01 11 30 30 31 32 2F 31 30
| Protocol ID: 00, Length: 2D, Version: E4 | 31 31 2F 2F 56 31 2E 30 2E 30 85 02 03 E8 C0 01 0A
| *** Invalid NPDU Version/Protocol ID Extension *** | C1 04 54 53 41 50 C3 02 CE 4D C6 01 02
18:14:35.84|Rx | 33|Type: Incomplete IP datagram | 0A 49 FF 00 08 00 14 81 66 F6 21 0A 49 00 40 08 00
| | 2B F0 34 26 21 00 09 80 00 00 54 00 00 E0 01 81
18:14:35.84| Tx| 11| Type: 00 | 00 09 80 00 00 54 00 00 E0 01 81
| Protocol ID: 00, Length: 09, Version: 80 |
| *** Invalid NPDU Version/Protocol ID Extension *** |
18:14:40.24|Rx | 69| Type: IP datagram | 31 2F 2F 56 31 2E 30 2E 30 85 02 03 E8 C0 01 0A C1
|Version: 00, IHL: 0A, TOS: 49, Total length FF00 | 04 54 53 41 50 C3 02 CE 4D C6 01 02
|Ident: 0800, Flags: 00, Offset: 1481, TTL: 66 |
|Protocol: F6 ( Unknown ), Checksum: 210A |
|Src: 73.0.64.8, Dst: 0.43.240.52 |
| Options |
|Type: 26 Unknown 2DE400005600420111303031322F313031312F2|
| |
18:14:40.24| Tx| 47| Type: 00 | 00 2D E4 00 00 56 00 42 01 11 30 30 31 32 2F 31 30
| Protocol ID: 00, Length: 2D, Version: E4 | 31 31 2F 2F 56 31 2E 30 2E 30 85 02 03 E8 C0 01 0A
| *** Invalid NPDU Version/Protocol ID Extension *** | C1 04 54 53 41 50 C3 02 CE 4D C6 01 02
TRACE ANAL/FULL/OUT=TRACCIA_ROUT.TXT DSA99:[SYS0.][SYSMGR]TRACCIA_ROUT.DAT;1
CTF V1.0-00 Page 1
Trace started on 1-FEB-1993 18:17:12.44 Analyzed on 1-FEB-1993 18:18:41.84
Trace File [SYSMGR]TRACCIA_TRANS.DAT;1 Output File [SYSMGR]TRACCIA_TRANS.TXT;1
-----------+----+-----+<---------------------Transport-Header----------------------->++---------------------------------------------
Time |Evnt|Data | ||Data
hh mm ss cc| |Size | ||
-----------+----+-----+<------------------------------------------------------------>++---------------------------------------------
18:17:12.44| Tx| 91|| Type: CR ||
|| Li: 2D Credit: 04 ||
|| Source Ref: 0057 Destination Ref: 0000 TC_id : 0057 ||
|| Class 4, Extended, Flowcontrol ||
|| Remote Nsap: 49FF000800148166F621 ||
|| ||
|| ||
|| (01) Identification of Implementation : 30 30 31 ||
|| 32 2F 31 ||
|| 30 31 31 ||
|| 2F 2F 56 ||
|| 31 2E 30 ||
|| 2E 30 ||
|| (85) Acknowledge : 1000 ms ||
|| (C0) Tpdu Size : 1024 ||
|| (C1) Calling Tsap : TSAP ||
|| 54 53 41 50 ||
|| (C3) Checksum : 72A8 ||
|| (C6) Additional Options : 02 ||
||
18:17:15.24| Tx| 55|| Type: DR ||
|| Li: 09 ||
|| Source Ref: 0056 Destination Ref: 0000 TC_id : 0056 ||
|| Class 4, Extended ||
|| Remote Nsap: 49FF000800148166F621 ||
|| Reason: 00 ||
|| - Reason not specfied ||
|| ||
|| (E0) Additional Information : 81 ||
||
18:17:17.44| Tx| 91|| Type: CR ||
|| Li: 2D Credit: 04 ||
|| Source Ref: 0057 Destination Ref: 0000 TC_id : 0057 ||
|| Class 4, Extended, Flowcontrol ||
|| Remote Nsap: 49FF000800148166F621 ||
|| ||
|| ||
|| (01) Identification of Implementation : 30 30 31 ||
|| 32 2F 31 ||
|| 30 31 31 ||
|| 2F 2F 56 ||
|| 31 2E 30 ||
|| 2E 30 ||
|| (85) Acknowledge : 1000 ms ||
|| (C0) Tpdu Size : 1024 ||
|| (C1) Calling Tsap : TSAP ||
|| 54 53 41 50 ||
|| (C3) Checksum : 72A8 ||
|| (C6) Additional Options : 02 ||
||
18:17:22.44| Tx| 91|| Type: CR ||
|| Li: 2D Credit: 04 ||
|| Source Ref: 0057 Destination Ref: 0000 TC_id : 0057 ||
CTF V1.0-00 Page 2
Trace started on 1-FEB-1993 18:17:12.44 Analyzed on 1-FEB-1993 18:18:41.84
Trace File [SYSMGR]TRACCIA_TRANS.DAT;1 Output File [SYSMGR]TRACCIA_TRANS.TXT;1
-----------+----+-----+<---------------------Transport-Header----------------------->++---------------------------------------------
Time |Evnt|Data | ||Data
hh mm ss cc| |Size | ||
-----------+----+-----+<------------------------------------------------------------>++---------------------------------------------
|| Class 4, Extended, Flowcontrol ||
|| Remote Nsap: 49FF000800148166F621 ||
|| ||
|| ||
|| (01) Identification of Implementation : 30 30 31 ||
|| 32 2F 31 ||
|| 30 31 31 ||
|| 2F 2F 56 ||
|| 31 2E 30 ||
|| 2E 30 ||
|| (85) Acknowledge : 1000 ms ||
|| (C0) Tpdu Size : 1024 ||
|| (C1) Calling Tsap : TSAP ||
|| 54 53 41 50 ||
|| (C3) Checksum : 72A8 ||
|| (C6) Additional Options : 02 ||
||
18:17:27.44| Tx| 91|| Type: CR ||
|| Li: 2D Credit: 04 ||
|| Source Ref: 0057 Destination Ref: 0000 TC_id : 0057 ||
|| Class 4, Extended, Flowcontrol ||
|| Remote Nsap: 49FF000800148166F621 ||
|| ||
|| ||
|| (01) Identification of Implementation : 30 30 31 ||
|| 32 2F 31 ||
|| 30 31 31 ||
|| 2F 2F 56 ||
|| 31 2E 30 ||
|| 2E 30 ||
|| (85) Acknowledge : 1000 ms ||
|| (C0) Tpdu Size : 1024 ||
|| (C1) Calling Tsap : TSAP ||
|| 54 53 41 50 ||
|| (C3) Checksum : 72A8 ||
|| (C6) Additional Options : 02 ||
||
18:17:32.44| Tx| 91|| Type: CR ||
|| Li: 2D Credit: 04 ||
|| Source Ref: 0057 Destination Ref: 0000 TC_id : 0057 ||
|| Class 4, Extended, Flowcontrol ||
|| Remote Nsap: 49FF000800148166F621 ||
|| ||
|| ||
|| (01) Identification of Implementation : 30 30 31 ||
|| 32 2F 31 ||
|| 30 31 31 ||
|| 2F 2F 56 ||
|| 31 2E 30 ||
|| 2E 30 ||
|| (85) Acknowledge : 1000 ms ||
|| (C0) Tpdu Size : 1024 ||
|| (C1) Calling Tsap : TSAP ||
CTF V1.0-00 Page 3
Trace started on 1-FEB-1993 18:17:12.44 Analyzed on 1-FEB-1993 18:18:41.84
Trace File [SYSMGR]TRACCIA_TRANS.DAT;1 Output File [SYSMGR]TRACCIA_TRANS.TXT;1
-----------+----+-----+<---------------------Transport-Header----------------------->++---------------------------------------------
Time |Evnt|Data | ||Data
hh mm ss cc| |Size | ||
-----------+----+-----+<------------------------------------------------------------>++---------------------------------------------
|| 54 53 41 50 ||
|| (C3) Checksum : 72A8 ||
|| (C6) Additional Options : 02 ||
||
18:17:35.24| Tx| 55|| Type: DR ||
|| Li: 09 ||
|| Source Ref: 0056 Destination Ref: 0000 TC_id : 0056 ||
|| Class 4, Extended ||
|| Remote Nsap: 49FF000800148166F621 ||
|| Reason: 00 ||
|| - Reason not specfied ||
|| ||
|| (E0) Additional Information : 81 ||
||
18:17:37.44| Tx| 91|| Type: CR ||
|| Li: 2D Credit: 04 ||
|| Source Ref: 0057 Destination Ref: 0000 TC_id : 0057 ||
|| Class 4, Extended, Flowcontrol ||
|| Remote Nsap: 49FF000800148166F621 ||
|| ||
|| ||
|| (01) Identification of Implementation : 30 30 31 ||
|| 32 2F 31 ||
|| 30 31 31 ||
|| 2F 2F 56 ||
|| 31 2E 30 ||
|| 2E 30 ||
|| (85) Acknowledge : 1000 ms ||
|| (C0) Tpdu Size : 1024 ||
|| (C1) Calling Tsap : TSAP ||
|| 54 53 41 50 ||
|| (C3) Checksum : 72A8 ||
|| (C6) Additional Options : 02 ||
||
18:17:42.44| Tx| 55|| Type: DR ||
|| Li: 09 ||
|| Source Ref: 0057 Destination Ref: 0000 TC_id : 0057 ||
|| Class 4, Extended ||
|| Remote Nsap: 49FF000800148166F621 ||
|| Reason: 00 ||
|| - Reason not specfied ||
|| ||
|| (E0) Additional Information : 81 ||
||
TRACE ANAL/FULL/OUT=TRACCIA_TRANS.TXT DSA99:[SYS0.][SYSMGR]TRACCIA_TRANS.DAT
| T.R | Title | User | Personal
Name | Date | Lines |
|---|
| 154.1 | solution is version 3.0b10 of CCP-LAN2 | ROMTSS::MARTIRE | | Mon Mar 08 1993 10:02 | 11 |
| The answer n. 1 is YES they support "Null Internet" an I could
send to Siemens MX X.400 messages. A problem exists when MX tries
to send a message to the Vax (Siemens systems drop the connection
with a code 84 (mismatched references) at tranport level).
The problem is SOLVED now:
Siemens developed a new version of CCP-LAN2 (v. 3.0b10) that
fixes their bug in dealing with calling and called TSAP after
the receipt of a CC packet from a VAX.
Piero.
|