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Conference ufhis::siemens_communication

Title:Siemens Connectivity
Notice:FTSIE Contact is Michael Eisenhut @MUC 865-1487
Moderator:UFHIS::MEISENHU
Created:Tue Aug 30 1988
Last Modified:Mon Feb 19 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:195
Total number of notes:512

94.0. "Sicomp M30 to VAX solutions?" by ISIDRO::LESTEBAN () Mon Feb 11 1991 11:54

	Is there any other solution for a  point to point connection between 
	an R30 or M30 and a VMS/VAX than using 3964R with VAXDUST ?


	Where can I get one positioning matrix about Digital Assets offering 
	and all kind of Siemens devices thru different connections ?

	I saw that recently but couldnt get a copy of it.

	Regards Luis Esteban
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94.1Overview in Note 28ECCGY4::STROHMAIERTue Feb 12 1991 14:496
    For the Overview try note 28
    
    more for the R30 note 50
    
    Regards
    Elisabeth
94.2R30 with du04 protocol? connection to H1 ?ISIDRO::LESTEBANFri Feb 22 1991 18:0915
    I was told that the R30 is an old machine , and that the required card
    could be the du04 .
    however, what i couldnt confirm is what protocol does a du04 speaks 
    3964r, 512 above ?
    if so , i could use decsicon or vaxdust.
    
    can anyone confirm me that point?
    
    They dont require any sinchonous comm, however they would like to know
    if
    any possible connection via net is possible, for instance attaching to
    H1 via K100.
    (ks100), then use either vsh1 or decosap (if AP is possible in R30)
    is this possible?
    regards, Luis
94.3SICOMP M/R to VMSMUDIS3::RBOEDEKERTue Feb 26 1991 19:5857
    
    There are some ways to connect a VMS System to the Siemens 
    SICOMP M. Beside the 3964R you can also communicate to the SICOMP M 
    via ISO protocols.
    
    The SICOMP R30 does not support ISO-Protocols and does not support a 
    LAN connection. A solution may be a SICOMP M System as gateway between
    a VMS-System and the SICOMP R30. Then the communication between the
    SICOMP M and SICOMP R is SINEC-M (a Siemens prop. Protocol).
    
    The DU04 is the SICOMP M controller running the 3964R protocol. On the 
    R30 the controller is called "3965R". (On the physical level it is a 
    X.20bis and X.21bis interface with a V24 connector).
    
    For ISO comm. use the OSI Transport VOTS and if you havea point to point 
    connection, you also need PSI.
    
    On top of VOTS you can use FTSIE for filetransfer and DEComni/DECosap
    for task-to-task communication.
    
    Now to the Siemens side:
    
    LAN
    
    On the SICOMP M you can use the level 4 controller KS100 and on top the
    Siemens products for filetransfer "AKS-T" with DS/PS 
    (directory service/project service) and SNFT (SINEC-Filetransfer). For
    the task-to-task comm. you need IOSY-H1.
    
    If you have the level 2 LAN controller DU03, than you need the
    following Siemens Products: SINEC-M (the communication system of the
    Sicomp) SNISO (the ISO Transport-System) SNVS-Interface and AKS-T. With
    these products, you are ready for level 4 and you can run SNFT
    (filetransfer) or IOSY-H1 for Task-to-Task com. 
    
    Point-to-point
    
    Take the X.25 Interface DU06B and on top SINEC-M and SNISO to provide a
    level 4 ISO communication. SNFT and IOSY-H1 are the products for
    filetransfer and task-to-task comm.. As usual the VMS is DCE and the
    SICOMP is DTE.
    
    
    An easy way to get files from a SICOMP M / SICOMP R is the good (!) old
    (!) KERMIT. But be careful: Kermit on a SICOMP M/R is not (!) a simple
    Kermit. You have to get it from Siemens with the extensions thes need
    for their terminal-protocol. On the SICOMP R/M they also need a special
    interface called PROMEA X rep. MX. 
    
    I hope this helps !
    
    Ralf
    
    PS: Keep in mind that FTSIE is not supported in an SICOMP environment.
    (but it works ... depending on the Release of the SICOMP SW ...)
    
                               
94.4your solution ?COL01::WMUELLERWolfgang M�ller [WoM]Mon Mar 04 1991 14:1320
    Together with SIEMENS Dortmund we made a filetransfere for VEW Dortmund
    between a SICOMP R30 and a VAX 6410:
    
    +--------+                 +--------+                +----------+
    | SICOMP |                 | SICOMP |                | VOTS 2.0 |
    |   R30  |<-- SINEC M ? -->| M26    |<-- SINEC H1 -->| VAX 6410 |
    +--------+                 +--------+                +----------+

    We sold our local (Cologne) tool SINCH1/VMS to SIEMENS including
    one day consulting. SIEMENS developed some software on the R30, 
    on the M26 and on the VAX. The transmissionrate is 30 KByte/s for
    filetransfer ! AS far as i remember, the transfer is initiated from
    the VAX.

    SIEMENS Dortmund/Essen is able to offer the software to other customers.
    The people of SIEMENS, which developed the software are familiar
    with SICOMP R, SICOMP M and VAX.
    
    May be, that can give you some new ideas
    Wolfgang