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Conference ufhis::siemens_communication

Title:Siemens Connectivity
Notice:FTSIE Contact is Michael Eisenhut @MUC 865-1487
Moderator:UFHIS::MEISENHU
Created:Tue Aug 30 1988
Last Modified:Mon Feb 19 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:195
Total number of notes:512

85.0. "VAX to Siemens via TCP/IP ?" by ZPOVC::SEOWHURN () Thu Nov 29 1990 06:29

    
    Has anyone out there ever developed any program to program
    communications between VAX and Siemens (BS2000) via TCP/IP ?
    
    The customer has been told by the local Siemens office that the TCP/IP
    on the BS2000 does not include the standard TCP/IP application
    programming interfaces. Is that true ??? 
    
    The desired solution is based on on-line program to program
    communications, extracting data from the Siemens machine and using it
    on the VAX, on-line.
    
    Any comments/suggestions will be most appreciated.
    
    
    Thanks
    
    Seow-Hurn Lim
    Software Services Singapore
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85.1Is TCP/IP a pre-requisite ?BIKINI::DITEPhaseV - Don't Worry! Be Happy...Thu Nov 29 1990 11:2329
>    The customer has been told by the local Siemens office that the TCP/IP
>    on the BS2000 does not include the standard TCP/IP application
>    programming interfaces. Is that true ??? 
>    
That's right. Siemens don't offer a TCP/IP sockets interface (a political 
decision). 

If TCP/IP
then
    if (VAX/Ultrix or VAX/VMS)
    then break; 	/* Siemens doesn't support Sockets */
    endif
else OSI
    if VAX/VMS
    then break;		/* Over X.25, or OSI Transport or OSI Session 
			   If File Transfer is sufficient then VAX/FTSIE
			   or OSI FTAM */
    else VAX/Ultrix	
    	if (in Europe)
    	then break;	/* X.25 with MESON */
	endif
    endif
endif

$wait +??:??:??.??
/* Phase V - HDLC, X.25, etc.*/ 		

Hope that helps
John
85.2Maybe via OSAK ?ZPOVC::SEOWHURNMon Dec 03 1990 11:1913
    From note 28.1, the table for VAX/VMS system states that VAX OSAK will
    provide transparent task-to-task for a Siemens 7.500 running BS2000
    with hardware LAN-Kanaladapter 9632-100 oder TRANSDATA 9688 (referring
    to the ethernet controller card ?????) and software BS2000
    Zugriffs-Method DCAM (BS2000 running DCAM ?????).
    
    Does it mean that a program written with OSAK calls can talk to a
    Siemens program with DCAM calls.
    
    Is it the same for a Siemens 7.580 running BS2000 Version 8 or 9 ?
    
    Thanks
    
85.3A solution from Integrata or ConwareMUDIS3::RBOEDEKERMon Dec 03 1990 18:3410
    The products MEPSIE and MEPOSIE from INTEGRATA support optional a
    task-to-task communication interface via MVS1 or OSI network.
    
    More details: see note 29
    
    An other product comes from Conware called EMF97. They also offer a
    task-to-task communication via a private protocol CNS (Conware Network
    System).
    
    Regards, Ralf
85.4Now it's OSI - some detailsBIKINI::DITEPhaseV - Don't Worry! Be Happy...Tue Dec 04 1990 10:5027
Hello Singapore

>    Does it mean that a program written with OSAK calls can talk to a
>    Siemens program with DCAM calls.

What do you mean by OSAK? Do you mean the product (OSAK contains OSI Session 
+ Session API and VOTS + Transport API) or a particular OSI-API?
Why, unless you want to program on BS2000, do you want know whether a 
Siemens program use DCAM calls? Surely what you want to know is whether an 
API is supported at a particular OSI level.

I hope this picture clarifies the situation:

		DEC - VAX			Siemens - BS2000
		VMS V5.*			(V7.5; V8.0; V9.0)
		  
	     API-----------		     API-----------
	5      	  OSAK V1.1	OSI Session	OSS.2000 (BAS) V1.0A
	     API-----------		     API-----------
	4	 (VOTS)V2.0			OSI Transport	DCAM		DCAM V9.0B
		-----------			-----------	     V9.1B	
								     V9.9A	
	
Hope that helps. Please give us more details of your problem/configuration
if that doesn't answer your question.

John
85.5SMTP ?ZPOVC::SEOWHURNTue Dec 04 1990 11:257
    
    Re: -1
    
    Thanks John, the diagram was what I was looking for, on the Siemens
    side.
    
    Another question - is SMTP supported on the BS2000 ?
85.6no SMTPMUDIS3::RBOEDEKERTue Dec 04 1990 14:363
    SMTP is not suppoprted by TCP-IP for BS2000 from Siemens.
    
    Regards, Ralf.