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Conference ufhis::siemens_communication

Title:Siemens Connectivity
Notice:FTSIE Contact is Michael Eisenhut @MUC 865-1487
Moderator:UFHIS::MEISENHU
Created:Tue Aug 30 1988
Last Modified:Mon Feb 19 1996
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:195
Total number of notes:512

41.0. "Null-Modem: Siemens DCE - Digital DTE" by HADRES::DITE (OSI ...just seven steps to heaven...) Fri Jan 05 1990 09:56

    With Null-Modem connections one of the Parties involved has to play
    DCE. 
    
    Digital has no Problem there as one can define INTERFACE DCE with the
    Profile ISO8208.
    
    Siemens has also a semi-official (i.e. it's not documented but is given
    to customers who ask for it) method to play DCE. It's crude but it
    works. 
    
    Just for your information this is how they do it in case you're in a
    position where you have to explain it to your customer or the local 
    Siemens support personnel.
    
    The line that the VAX is connected to has 2 Line Tables (1 Input 
    & 1 Output) (German: Ein- und Ausgabe Leitungssteuertabellen)
    associated with it in the PDN System. The line number and the
    associated output line table is given by the Siemens Generation 
    parameter XLTNG LPUFADR=X%xx. The output line table word 11 contains
    the relevant HDLC-LAPB addresses. 
    
    		    0	    1			
    
    	LW10	*	*	*
    		*****************
    	LW11	*  03	*  01	*	Normal DTE Generation
    		*****************
    	LW12	*	*	*
    
    All the Siemens System Manager has to do is to invert the above fields.
    
    		    0	    1			
    
    	LW10	*	*	*
    		*****************
    	LW11	*  01	*  03	*	Patched PDN System for DCE Operation
    		*****************
    	LW12	*	*	*
    
    
    Hope this helps.
    
    John
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41.1NULL-MODEM means Modem-EmulatorMUNICH::KLOEPPERVera Kloepper/Net&Comms-SupportFri Jan 05 1990 14:2720
    
    NULL-MODEM !!!
    
    That type of connection doesn't mean, that there isn't any synchr. 
    modem.
    To connect to a VAX synchr. controller you have to use a Pair of Modems
    or a Modemeliminator.
    
    => The Modem-Connection alsways is in DTE mode also if the P.S.I. is
       setup in DCE mode.
    
    Don't forget this fact, when you are trying to connect inhouse a
    synchr. line between any Siemens and any VAX.
    
    (Note: 
    	   Siemens has a clock on every synchr. device and don't need
    	   a external modem - and because of that mostly they don't
    	   understand why they have to use it.)
    
    regards Vera
41.2WOODWARD'LAW: A theory is better than an explainationMUNICH::DITEMon Jan 08 1990 21:0110
    Sorry of course I meant to be more precise:
    
    When the two devices communicate via a synchronous data link, the
    transmit clock from each device is normally cross-connected and is used 
    as the receive clock by the other device. In some instances however,
    neither device contains a clock source and the clock to be used
    is generated within the null modem. The latter is known as a modem
    eliminator.
    
    John