| Title: | Zap Technical Conference |
| Notice: | ZAP Version 5.3 is available. See note 1.1 |
| Moderator: | ZAPDEV::MACONI |
| Created: | Mon Feb 24 1986 |
| Last Modified: | Mon May 05 1997 |
| Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
| Number of topics: | 170 |
| Total number of notes: | 492 |
Hello, I am quite new with ZAP software so I hope that someone could give me help with few problems. One of our big customer here in Finland bought ZAP to stop inactive Allin1 user processes. They have VAX6610 and more or less 2000 Allin1 accounts. They can allow only 400 simultaneous user. That's why they need ZAP to logout inactive user and give slot to someone who might need it. That's the background. I have installed ZAP V5.0 in last week. I configured it and tested it with few normal users and everything seemed to work okay. But then I ran into problem. And here is my questions. First I tried to define all users as a one group or should I say behind one exception rule. If I understood correct wildcards are OK so I defined username-field of one rule like this %_*. Because customer has all Allin1 usernames like this X_YYYYYY (X is fist letter of given name and YYYYYY is surname). This definition didn't work at all and then I tried *_* which seemed to fit to every process on the system. How can I control only right (Y_KANNELA) type of usernames. Second problem. I have sensitivity set to 5 and idle time limit is set to 25 min. If user opens WP document and then stops working his process won't never get stopped. In WP there is autosave feature in every 20 min (or more frequently is user wants) and that generates some activity and zero idle time. What should I do ? Raise the sensitivity and if so how much ? I am very grateful if someone could help me. Regards, Yrjo Kannela MCS Finland
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| 142.1 | One problem fixed in 5.1+ | ZAPDEV::MACONI | The Doctor is In | Wed Dec 29 1993 13:50 | 43 |
Hi, | That's the background. I have installed ZAP V5.0 in last | week. The currently released version of ZAP is V5.2(-4). | First I tried to define all users as a one group or | should I say behind one exception rule. If I understood | correct wildcards are OK so I defined username-field of | one rule like this %_*. Because customer has all Allin1 | usernames like this X_YYYYYY (X is fist letter of given name | and YYYYYY is surname). This definition didn't work at all | and then I tried *_* which seemed to fit to every process | on the system. How can I control only right (Y_KANNELA) | type of usernames. This problem was corrected in V5.1 and greater. Note 113.4 discusses this problem in greater detail. | Second problem. I have sensitivity set to 5 and idle | time limit is set to 25 min. If user opens WP document | and then stops working his process won't never get | stopped. In WP there is autosave feature in every 20 min | (or more frequently is user wants) and that generates | some activity and zero idle time. What should I do ? | Raise the sensitivity and if so how much ? The problem is that, as far as an idle process monitor is concerned, there is no problem here. ZAP monitors the activity of a process and it does not know if the activity was initiated by the user or by the program itself. If you raise the sensitivity, then you increase the amount of work that ALL users on the system must perform in order to be non-idle. My best recommendation is that the idle time limit should be reduced to a value below this "autosave" frequency. Raising the sensitivity may also be used, but caution should be taken if it is raised above 10. Remember that sensitivity is the combination of CPU time in hundreths of seconds, plus two times buffered i/os, plus three times direct i/os. Depending on the size of the document, the amount of work done by the autosave feature may fall in this range. Keith Maconi | |||||
| 142.2 | ZAPDEV::MACONI | The Doctor is In | Wed Dec 29 1993 14:24 | 6 | |
Hi, In V5.1+, you need to specify the users as *_*, as the % character is not recognized. Keith | |||||
| 142.3 | ZAP ALLIN1/WP | EEMELI::KANNELA | Yrj� Kannela MCS Fno | Thu Dec 30 1993 03:28 | 14 |
Thanks for your quick reply. I'll have to get new version of ZAP to correct username problem. But the autosave case more complicated because customer wants to save the current document before ZAP stops user process. I'll try to find out solution to that problem. Thanks again Yrjo Kannela | |||||