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Title:Zap Technical Conference
Notice:ZAP Version 5.3 is available. See note 1.1
Moderator:ZAPDEV::MACONI
Created:Mon Feb 24 1986
Last Modified:Mon May 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:170
Total number of notes:492

45.0. "ZAP with ACMS and/or VAXnotes" by VANISH::KINGHORN (ian j kinghorn) Fri Jan 29 1988 10:57

      I have two problems/queries regards the use of ZAP.
    
      1  -  Use with users using ACMS. It appears that when a user is
          using an application written using ACMS all work is attributed
          to the application server. As this is not part of the user's
          process tree the process appears idle, and ZAP zaps it after
          the allotted idle time.
    
            I can of course exclude the image the process runs when
          using the ACMS server, ie: ACMSOPR. The problem I have is
          whats to stop a user firing up an ACMS application menu to
          avoid being ZAPped. Any ideas to get round this? Maybe something
          for ZAP V4.0.
    
      2  -  The second problem is with VAXnotes, which does a significant
          amount of work to trap and display the ZAP message. I have
          found that to stop an idle process which is using VAXnotes
          I need the sensitivity set to 10. This may not be unreasonable
          but then again it seems a long way from ZAP's default of 5.
    
            I dont have the flexibility to set the sensitivity level
          for the VAXnotes image, so all other processes must suffer.
          Another alternative would be to turn off the messages sent
          to users using VAXnotes, but this seems decidedly user
          "unfriendly". Again maybe V4.0 could incorporate the ability
          to selectively set the sensitivity on an image.
    
      Any comments, inputs, work arounds or corrections greatly
    appreciated.
    
    Regards,
    
      Ian
                                                         
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45.1Some suggestionsNRADM3::MACONIThe DoctorMon Feb 01 1988 11:3021
    In answer to your questions:
    
    ZAP uses the formula CPU(100th sec)+(2*bufio)+(3*dirio) and compares
    this to the sensitivity.  The lower the sensitivity (towards zero)
    the less work that needs to be done to be non-idle.
    
    Since (1) ACMS does require user input and terminal output, the
    BUFIO will increase over time even if cpu and dirio does not.  With
    the default sensitivity of 5, three bufios are required in 1 minute.
    This may be too many for this process and a lower sensitivity may
    be required.
    
    As for (2) VAXnotes, setting a longer time limit with a smaller
    sensitivity will help VAXnotes.  Again, bufio is the key here since
    the server does most of the work.  A limit of 5 may be too high
    in your environment.
    
    Thanks for the suggestion, I will try to work individual sensitivities
    into V4.0.
    
    				Keith Maconi