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Title:You get surface noise in real life too
Notice:Let's be conformist
Moderator:GOVT02::BARKER
Created:Thu Jul 28 1988
Last Modified:Mon Jun 02 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:550
Total number of notes:3847

482.0. "1 speaker set to 2 amps?" by BAHTAT::HILTON (Beer...now there's a temporary solution) Fri Jun 10 1994 18:19

    Can I wire 1 set of speakers up to 2 different amps, by just putting
    both cables straight into the speaker connection posts?
    
    Cheers,
    
    Greg
    
    
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482.1i dunnoWOTVAX::SALISBURYGFri Jun 10 1994 18:317
    Can you draw this - I'm afraid I just cannot imagine what you mean 
    and why?
    Oh and thanks for the suggestion of 780's have you got any
    or heard any?
    
    Thanks 
    G.
482.2HLDE01::SOEMBA::RIKMostly HarmlessMon Jun 13 1994 10:0214
No, unless both amps have speaker switches, or a speaker protection relay (open
when the amp is powered off) to electrically disconnect the unused amp from the 
setup. Otherwise the inactive amp would load the active one with some very 
a-linear load. Not nice, sonically and electrically.

If they have speaker switches, take care to switch the unused amp not to use the
speaker pair you've wired this to. Else get hold of a hefty four pole double 
throw switch, or two double ones. You may get by connecting speaker ground 
from both amps and only switching the (+) terminals, but only if the amps are
not bridged.
                                                        
                                                  - Rik -


482.3ESBS01::WATSONEntropy: chaos at it's bestMon Jun 13 1994 10:255
    QED do a speaker switch (SW-11 I think) which will do just this. It
    also provides a 8ohm loading resistor for the unused amp. There is also
    some kind of circitry to stop earths being commoned.
    
    	Rik
482.4ThanksBAHTAT::HILTONBeer...now there's a temporary solutionMon Jun 13 1994 12:395
    Cheers,
    
    Good job I checked!!
    
    Greg
482.5Thanks for the advice!BAHTAT::HILTONBeer...now there's a temporary solutionMon Jun 13 1994 12:417
    Cheers good job I checked. 
    
    I had thought that if one was physically powered off it would be ok.
    
    Thanks again,
    
    Greg
482.6FILTON::NOBLEYou found God at the Smorgasbord?Mon Jun 13 1994 16:163
    Come on then Sonic, what's it for?
    
    Steev
482.7House wide sound ;^)BAHTAT::HILTONBeer...now there's a temporary solutionMon Jun 13 1994 17:1212
    Its for:
    
    upstairs, amp connected to speakers for PC
    
    downstairs, AN OTHER amp connected to speakers for Audio.
    
    And I decided it would be good, if I could play stuff downstairs and
    hear it upstairs!
    
    Cheers,
    
    Sonic
482.8ESBS01::WATSONEntropy: chaos at it's bestMon Jun 13 1994 17:248
    Even if the 'other' amp is off don't do it. You'll still end up with
    (potentially) different earths and driving the opamp on the 'other'
    amp.
    
    You're idea is a good one though - how else do you think I knew the QED
    part number - I bought on at the W/E.
    
    	Rik
482.9Hole in the house?BAHTAT::HILTONBeer...now there's a temporary solutionThu Jun 23 1994 14:388
    Rik,
    
    How did you get the speaker cables upstairs, through the ceiling, or
    through the wall cavity?
    
    Cheers,
    
    Greg
482.10EasyESBS01::WATSONEntropy: chaos at it's bestThu Jun 23 1994 15:403
    New house, helpfull builder.
    
    	Rik
482.11HLDE01::63697::RIKMostly HarmlessThu Jun 23 1994 15:4114
(another Rik)

I put a buffer in the downstairs preamp tape loop, and feed the low-level 
signal to a line-level input on the upstairs amps (yes, two). No messy, hefty,
expensive switches and ditto cables, possibly dual speaker load on the 
downstairs power amp etcetera, and the possibility to control volume without 
yelling (useless in my case: I've never seen my cat turn the volume down, or 
up) or running down the stairs.

The cable is ordinary telco dual twisted pair (the buffer has a nice low output
impedance), hidden behind a central heating pipe, then through the upstairs 
floorboards.
                                                        
                                                  - Rik -