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| 480.1 | Keep the CD52 | PAKORA::PCARLIN | | Tue Jun 07 1994 22:53 | 18 |
| The Marantz CD52 is a very good player. I would suggest that it is the
best part of your system and wouldn't recommend upgrading it at the
moment. I use one with a 3-piece Naim amp and Linn speakers and am very
pleased with the result.
I don't want to be unflattering about the rest of your system but I
feel that you may benefit from upgrading both! I would start with the
amplifier. A friend of mine had a very similar system to yours and,
after a demonstration at a good dealer, upgraded his (Marantz)
amplifier to a Naim Nait. He was knocked out by the result. He
continues to use his Tannoy speakers but will upgrade when funds allow.
I think the bottom line is to find yourself a good dealer (perhaps
Linn/Naim or other quality stuff) and let them advise you. Keep away
from Comet/Lasky's/Dixon's and the like!
Good luck,
Paul.
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| 480.2 | how terrible is wisdom.... | WOTVAX::SALISBURYG | | Wed Jun 08 1994 17:27 | 13 |
| Thanks Paul
But may I ask which Marantz amp your friend had?
You see I only purchased the amp at Xmas after listening to most of the
200pound amps and found the 44se by far the best for my personal
tastes. Afterall it has been very highly reviewed in many of the Hi Fi
mags and indeed has beaten amps costing much more. Of all those I tested
it seemed to have the best bass and treble range, Tested in a reputable local
hifi shop not Dixons and the ilk, who I did not even know sold hifi gear..
So i still feel the problem is with the CD or speakers -
And ultimately I believe the speakers...but again I await any replies
or info....
G.
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| 480.3 | | 44970::PCARLIN | | Thu Jun 09 1994 04:52 | 26 |
|
I'll try to find out which amp my friend had. It was certainly older
and less expensive than yours.
Changing the CD player won't give more bass. The CD52 really is good.
I've never been a fan of Tannoy speakers but the ones I have heard
seemed to give lots of bass: not always accurate but certainly deep
and boomy.
If you are suffering from a lack, it may be due to environmental
conditions i.e. room size , type of floor/walls, furnishings
etc. Are you able to set your system up elsewhere for a quick listen?
I should have made it clear that the Naim Nait didn't necessarily give
more bass, it simply improved the quality of the music.
I didn't mean to insult you by suggesting that you shop at Dixon's!!
I was just pointing out that it's always nice to have a good local
dealer to depend on for advice (rather than depending on the likes of
me!).
I'll get back to you re my friends amp.
Paul.
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| 480.4 | Thanks and..... | WOTVAX::SALISBURYG | | Thu Jun 09 1994 11:20 | 23 |
| Thanks Paul, again.
I suppose I was a little insulted at first, but it is good to hear
other peoples views. Unfortunatley I am still quite young to the HiFi
world and tend to get all my ideas from "What hifi,
Hence the Tannoy Speakers...Which were always highly reviewed for some
time in the afore mentioned magazine...so i just went out and bought
them.( I notice now they don't get a mention)..
You are right about the CD52 that was recommended by friends and shops
galore - before that I had a CD41 a 16bit player and like most very
bright in sound, whereas the 52 is much warmer..I think I am just
looking for an excuse for a new CD player..
And as regards the Amp, as I said previously, this I did review,
and was plesantly suprised by the sound its very clear sounding
and does not seem to miss anything out of the music.
I think the amp is the core of my system and believe that the
problem lies elsewhere, and so far it looks like its the speakers.
I am gratefull for your replies its just when you said it might be my
amp ! The one i'd just paid 200 pounds for I thought "Cheeky B@@ger
Ive only just bought that!"..
So thanks again and if you can recommend any good 200-250 pound
speakers I would be more than greatful..
G.
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| 480.5 | Rega Kyte may help | BASLG1::MORRIS | | Thu Jun 09 1994 15:19 | 5 |
| Have a listen to the Rega Kyte speakers, at only 200 pounds they are a
bargain. Although they don't look the part as far as bass is concerned,
they are a very accurate and detailed speaker. I have them in a medium
sized room, and the bass is balanced with respect to the rest of the music.
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| 480.6 | EL8 = Kyte + Bass | LARVAE::MELTON_D | | Thu Jun 09 1994 15:32 | 10 |
| RE: .5
Interesting thing, perception. I listened to the Kytes, among others,
when I was looking to upgrade from Celestion DL4 Series 2s. I found
them very detailed and musical but with less bass than the DL4s.
I ended up paying another 99 quid for the Rega EL8 which had a very
similar character to the Kyte but with bass.
Dave M.
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| 480.7 | Mission | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Fri Jun 10 1994 18:17 | 8 |
| How about the Mission range (760, 780)? I found them to have a surprising
amount of bass.
And What Hi-Fi like them ;^)
Cheers,
Greg
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| 480.8 | 780 | WOTVAX::SALISBURYG | | Fri Jun 10 1994 18:27 | 2 |
| Are the 780's and se's by Mission any good or bad?
Does anybody out there know?
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| 480.9 | I liked 'em | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Mon Jun 13 1994 12:38 | 7 |
| 760's were thought of as good, then the 760se's were even better!
I personally preffered the sound of the 760s to the 780s.
Cheers,
Greg
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| 480.10 | TDL? | MOVIES::VERBIST | Free the Files 11 ! � | Mon Jun 13 1994 12:49 | 5 |
|
What about the TDL RTL series? I understand the transmission line design
gives heap mucho bass - and the RTL3s are a snip at �400.
/guy
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| 480.11 | Sub-woofer? | BAHTAT::HILTON | Beer...now there's a temporary solution | Mon Jun 13 1994 14:39 | 6 |
| One 'it's worth BORROWING one from a reputable dealer' kinda thought...
Why not try a sub-woofer? Some people hate them while other's seem to
like them.
Greg
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| 480.12 | Listen without predjudice | WOTVAX::SALISBURYG | | Mon Jun 20 1994 16:49 | 22 |
| >Its Funny when you ask for help people immediatley assume there is
someting wrong with your choice of equipment - The Beauty of Hi Fi is
to tune the sound to your personel taste.
It is a wll known fact that just because something costs more it does
not mean it it is neccesarrely better- better made yes, better finish
yes - but sound, not always.
Nobody surgested trying different cable or plugs - Just pointing out
that because they had spent a huge amount it must be viable for
somebody else to.
Well i did a bit of research chatted to some decent Hi fI dealers and
the repnce generally was - Either decent speaker stands, or A DAC for the
C.D so I went for the Former, Purchased the Tannoy stands for my
Rubbishy 605's and the result was well worth the price premium.
So my bass problem has been solved - for 75 pounds- not by spending 500
on a new amp or new speakers, just the stands!
My advice would be listen to your Hifi not talk about it, who knows you
may be asking for advice soon.
G.
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| 480.13 | | KERNEL::CBANKS | UK CSC Basingstoke | Fri Jul 01 1994 11:36 | 12 |
| Something which made a huge improvement to my system was high quality
interconnects between the CD and amp. Also if possible with these
stands fill them with sand or lead pellets to give them more solidity.
I have installed a Wimslow Audio sub-woofer and this really fills in
the DEEP bass at higher volumes, the effect is much more subtle than I
expected but well worth 50 notes (secondhand).
Use good quality speaker cables.
Colin
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| 480.14 | Thanks V much | WOTVAX::SALISBURYG | | Fri Jul 01 1994 12:01 | 10 |
| Thanks Colin
Some Good advice! - I did fill them with sand and as you said i do have
a good interconnector between CD and amp, But it's amazing the
difference in sound that the stands make - much more solid sound now.
I was told I would need to spend at least another 400 pounds before i
can justify an increase in the sound difference of my speakers over the way
they sound on decent stands.
Next is a decent HiFi stand!
G.
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| 480.15 | Interconnect and speaker wire can help | EVOAI2::NGUYEN_G | | Tue Sep 20 1994 17:36 | 30 |
| This summer we've got an old pair of Ditton 15 speakers (20 years
old !) for my son. They are coonected to his Pionner SA8100
amplifier (also 15 years old) fed by MARANTZ CD 52: the sound was
muddy and bass weak.
After reading notes on cables benefit influence in sound, we've
tried different comparisons with materials available from friends.
Interconnect wires:
- Sony : little improvement
- AGI : no noticable improvement
- Fender Ariane : more bass and crisple high (final selection)
180 frs/pair at discount shop
Speaker wires:
- Lucas : better bass
- QED like : no noticale improvement
- Monster Cable (30 frs/m) :very good bass as provided by a 12'
(final selection) woofer .
- Monster Cable (Original 90 frs/m) : less good result than the
above economical Monster.
By spending around 400frs (40 pounds) we have "upgraded" the
system from low to mid-end.
As cables are system dependent it's worth a try !
Good luck.
PS La Nouvelle Revue Du SON (January 94 issue) has the Marantz PM44 SE
on front page. The review people recommend it strongly as the core
for budget but audiophile system.
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